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Old 01-14-2012, 04:52 PM   #1351
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Hey all,

First race meet with A700 on Friday and like many others on this thread ... WOW!

Qualified 2nd, finished 2nd. Fastest lap in last qualifier and the final.
A700 is already 0.10sec (fast lap) faster than my TOP Photon !

Car feels very direct / responsive. Getting some snap oversteer in sweepers, so like Try Hard will be experimenting with battery position and wheel base next time.

My set up is similar to Try Hard's, however am using short camber links (kit).
Will also be trying longer links soon.

Overall, very very impressed indeed !

Has anyone tried symetric dampers in front and asymetric in rear?

Thanks Alan
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Hi all, Where can I buy one!!!!
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Old 01-15-2012, 05:14 AM   #1353
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WOW indeed, the only thing better than one A700 is two...and I've got the second one coming
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Old 01-15-2012, 05:31 AM   #1354
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Direct from manufacturer only, website below

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Old 01-15-2012, 06:07 AM   #1355
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Hey all!

I just want to share with you my first basic setup for carpet tracks with medium size.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask and/ or contact me.

The car works perfect and is super easy to drive.

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Don't know why but my pdf file seems to be broken ... mhhh
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Old 01-15-2012, 06:10 AM   #1356
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Freddy, thank you!
We are waiting your setup now.
But 488.3 KB is limit for .pdf attachments now here.

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Old 01-15-2012, 07:00 AM   #1357
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here it is ...
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Old 01-15-2012, 07:30 AM   #1358
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Hi Freddy,

Do you have a video of your car running with that setup? The dampening is interesting. Would like to see what your track looks like.
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Old 01-15-2012, 07:41 AM   #1359
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To be honest I don't have a video. Maybe I can make one at next practice. The track had some hairpins but also long sweepers.

The dampening feels good. Nearly to normal shocks in standard cars and similiar to Ronalds Yokomo.

Here is a picture of the track:
http://www.odw-raceway.de/wp-content...1/IMG_0003.jpg
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Old 01-15-2012, 08:20 AM   #1360
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Ball diff in the front? Is that right?
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Old 01-15-2012, 08:54 AM   #1361
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Yes, it's right. You will fill it with 1.000.000 Oil. Sounds strange and stiff but it feels great and is not to hard.
You can also adjust the front diff that it will have slightly slip. Or adjust it very tight and you just have the effect like a gear diff.

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Yes, it's right. You will fill it with 1.000.000 Oil. Sounds strange and stiff but it feels great and is not to hard.
You can also adjust the front diff that it will have slightly slip. Or adjust it very tight and you just have the effect like a gear diff.

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Hi Freddy,

No offence, but are you sure the damping/spring on the front is right? it seems really really low! 67.3g/f, with a really soft damper... just checking!

Oh, and where did you get the 1,000K oil? most I've found is 500K.

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Yeah, I ran the front shocks as much inside as possible so distance A=0. Distance B=5mm and screws arrangement in front 1 and in rear 2.
Due to the RH screw the spring is not too soft. Please try it and feel the stiffness.

To be honest I don't know where to get the million oil. I borrowed it from a friend.

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We had our big monthly race ( this one was called the Icebox in-door ) and the Awesomatix didnít let me down on a day when it was snowing outside. It seeing the snow may have made it lonely for Moscow but it didnít show it :-) I got TQ and the win against some solid talent. Everyone continues to be impressed with the corner speed and that I can hit the same spot reliably lap after lap. No doubt that the A700 is getting deserved attention both on and off the track.

Freddy, interesting that you were able to use so little dampening but it looks like your spring rate was equally low. I went the opposite way with the highest dampening possible ( A = 6.8mm, SRS II ) then added spring rate as described below. Seeing the picture Iím wondering what type of carpet that is, and what its characteristics are compared to Ozyte ?

Iíve noticed that many of the winning setups are around 95 gF/mm spring rate. I started out with 100 gF/mm knowing that our grip was less than the big international races where these setups were derived from. Using SRS/RHS Screw arrangement II and to get full ( heaviest ) damping rate I chose A value of 6.8mm ( nearly max ) and adjusted B to 3mm to get 100 gF/mm. Through the day I decreased B to 2mm, then 1mm ( increasing the spring rate each time ). So my spring rate went from 100gF/mm up to 110 , then 120 gF/mm. At the end of the day I saw a hint of a traction roll and maybe with the added traction the car may have started losing some corner speed. For our conditions 115 gF/mm may have been ideal.

Also, using he AIS steering rack ( in full forward position ) I tried both the shortest possible steering turnbuckle length and also the longest possible, back to back. So to be clear, ( for the longest ) this means the innermost ball stud location on the AIS rack with the outermost position of the steering knuckle. I thought the longer configuration made the car have more initial steering. I have to analyze why the different length arms has made such a result !

Jake Danilchik

edit : fixed my setup sheet. Now correct spring rate is shown and gear oil
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Old 01-15-2012, 10:52 AM   #1365
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Congrats for the great result!
The carpet is an old one from the LRP Touring Car Masters some years ago I think.
It's a standard carpet which the most tracks here in germany use. I don't know any specific details, sorry.

I just played a little bit with the shocks setting and ended up with this soft setting which felt best and increased laptimes.
I also compared the setting with a standard shock and that felt nearly the same.

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