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Old 12-23-2014, 03:23 AM   #7621
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I can't wait to see Oleg design a damper with two separate oil chambers with separate vanes and one way bearings for fully independent compression and rebound settings. :P

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But how does it influence the damper's behaviour in comparison to AT41 with holes in the blades?
Drilling different size or different quantity of holes will allow you to adjust pack, just like in blank shock pistions.

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Maybe it's just so you can drill your own holes?

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you are correct sir. AT41-0 damper vane is without holes --- for the ultimate in adjustability, but also confusion . i wouldn't recommend this for the newbie racer.
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so does the new chassis require the new motor mount? and the new motor mount require the new chassis ? just wondering if it is possible to upgrade one at a time
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so does the new chassis require the new motor mount? and the new motor mount require the new chassis ? just wondering if it is possible to upgrade one at a time
It is impossible to mount the new MM2 on C01AL-S, it requires the use of the new alu chassis C01AL-S2. I supposed it is the same if you want to mount the old motor mount on C01AL-S2...

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It is impossible to mount the new MM2 on C01AL-S, it requires the use of the new alu chassis C01AL-S2.
NOT accurate !

From Oleg :

http://www.rctech.net/forum/13718643-post7561.html

New motor mount has four flex modes
At Mode 3 and Mode 4 the using of AM69 battery holder is not important and new motor mount can be installed without AM69 on C01, C01L, C01EX, C01AL and C01AL-H chassis also.
You can also use new motor mount even at Mode 1 and Mode 2 without AM69 on these chassis with losing of few percents of flex symmetry.
Furthermore you can install AM69 even on C01, C01L and C01EX chassis and get all flex modes after very simple filing of the chassis edge under AM69 leg.
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Old 12-23-2014, 11:15 AM   #7626
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so does the new chassis require the new motor mount? and the new motor mount require the new chassis ? just wondering if it is possible to upgrade one at a time
Jake is already ahead of me to answer.

I have to add the next:

Mode 1 is the softest and Mode 4 is the stiffest.

Our Team drivers use only Mode 2 and Mode 3 now and it seems a sufficient choice at the most conditions.

C01AL-S2 chassis and new C01L2 carbon chassis - all four modes are possible.
C01AL -S chassis - Mode 1,2,3 are possible.

C01, C01L, C01EX, C01AL and C01AL-H chassis - Mode 1,2,3 are possible but without AM69 Battery Support installation.

Yes, after very simple filing of the chassis edge under AM69 leg you can install AM69 even on C01, C01L and C01EX chassis and get pure Mode 1 and Mode 2 also.

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I can't wait to see Oleg design a damper with two separate oil chambers with separate vanes and one way bearings for fully independent compression and rebound settings. :P

-Mike
I was about to post an identical suggestion earlier today. I guess the owb's would have to be absolutely tiny.

About the holes in the new shocks, it should be easier to find the optimum pack because the rotary damper is inherently superior due to the volume being constant along with consistent low friction ballraced vanes.

A flexible plastic cover over one hole would create a one way valve which could give different compression and rebound.

So many possibilities but I guess we just have to find out what works on track and grow from there
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Old 12-23-2014, 02:49 PM   #7628
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Maybe a stupide question but how much D2-S do I need for the 4 corners of my car? 2 or 4 (come as a pair or as a single piece)?

Juste saw it now, what is D2 damper? In comparison to D2-S?

Last thing: can I still use the AM30-5 short central stiffner with the new C01AL-S2? Or only the long AM33-5 fits?

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A700-d2-s is one piece. You need four per car

The old braces should fit..
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I was about to post an identical suggestion earlier today. I guess the owb's would have to be absolutely tiny.

About the holes in the new shocks, it should be easier to find the optimum pack because the rotary damper is inherently superior due to the volume being constant along with consistent low friction ballraced vanes.

A flexible plastic cover over one hole would create a one way valve which could give different compression and rebound.

So many possibilities but I guess we just have to find out what works on track and grow from there
Actually, what I mentioned wouldn't work that well. I forgot that the housing has an oil chamber for each vane, with limits to how far the vanes can turn. If the vanes only turn one way, they'd hit the limit of their travel, and then badness ensues.

Rather than throw more half-assed ideas out there, I'll just continue to eat my popcorn and drive my orange car and see what Oleg comes up with next.

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A700-d2-s is one piece. You need four per car

The old braces should fit..
Thanks for the support Mike!

For Oleg: what is D2 damper? In comparison to D2-S?

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Old 12-24-2014, 05:00 AM   #7632
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Maybe an idea for a last christmas gift?

AWESOMATIX A700 Evo + options + parts



Merry christmas to all the russian car lovers (and the others too)
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Old 12-24-2014, 06:27 AM   #7633
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Thanks for the support Mike!

For Oleg: what is D2 damper? In comparison to D2-S?

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D2 is RTR oil filled damper ( 500 cst oil inside is now).
D2-S is the kit for assembling (oil is not included).
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Nice, thanks!
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Old 12-24-2014, 07:52 AM   #7635
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Silly question ! But now you change oil in dampers , do they still move in and out as well also what was the aprox wight of oil in old dampers?
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