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Old 10-08-2014, 06:08 AM   #7231
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Hey guys, so I have Kody's setup on my mod evo and im lacking rear traction a stability in the chicanes, and suggestions on what will help this? I tried more front droop and it helped a little but it still needs more. Maybe a roll center change or damper change?
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Hey guys, so I have Kody's setup on my mod evo and im lacking rear traction a stability in the chicanes, and suggestions on what will help this? I tried more front droop and it helped a little but it still needs more. Maybe a roll center change or damper change?
try-

more rear toe
more rear spring (small # on the hook)
or less rear droop
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I could use a bit of help with set-up. Ran my EVO w/alum chassis last weekend for the first time. I started with Mike Gee's set up, found the car very loose on power corner exit. I made some changes, got it better, but still too loose, need to wait for the car to straiten out befor I could get on the throttle, or it would try and swap ends. made getting through some right/left/right transitions very difficult. Steering is OK, a bit of under steer if anything off throttle/corner entry.

I would post my set up but this forum seems to suck at the moment to post attachments...

here is what i ended up with from Gee's set up; front unchanged exept for susp. rate 71.96(a4.0,b4.0), rear; outer shim 1.75, inner shims, 3.0, susp. rate 63.35(a4.0 b5.4), camber 2.0, toe 3.0, 3.6mm over ride drop, 1.0sway bar, diff 2000. I am also using AM06m in the rear, and AT21 no shims all around.
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here is what i ended up with from Gee's set up; front unchanged exept for susp. rate 71.96(a4.0,b4.0), rear; outer shim 1.75, inner shims, 3.0, susp. rate 63.35(a4.0 b5.4), camber 2.0, toe 3.0, 3.6mm over ride drop, 1.0sway bar, diff 2000. I am also using AM06m in the rear, and AT21 no shims all around.
Usually for A700 car the rear susp. rate should be bigger than the front one. Please check.
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I could use a bit of help with set-up. Ran my EVO w/alum chassis last weekend for the first time. I started with Mike Gee's set up, found the car very loose on power corner exit. I made some changes, got it better, but still too loose, need to wait for the car to straiten out befor I could get on the throttle, or it would try and swap ends. made getting through some right/left/right transitions very difficult. Steering is OK, a bit of under steer if anything off throttle/corner entry.

I would post my set up but this forum seems to suck at the moment to post attachments...

here is what i ended up with from Gee's set up; front unchanged exept for susp. rate 71.96(a4.0,b4.0), rear; outer shim 1.75, inner shims, 3.0, susp. rate 63.35(a4.0 b5.4), camber 2.0, toe 3.0, 3.6mm over ride drop, 1.0sway bar, diff 2000. I am also using AM06m in the rear, and AT21 no shims all around.
Is it a setup with the swapped rear dampers, or normal? I believe they swapped them recently to cure the issue your describing. (swapped and set in async mode)
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I could use a bit of help with set-up. Ran my EVO w/alum chassis last weekend for the first time. I started with Mike Gee's set up, found the car very loose on power corner exit. I made some changes, got it better, but still too loose, need to wait for the car to straiten out befor I could get on the throttle, or it would try and swap ends. made getting through some right/left/right transitions very difficult. Steering is OK, a bit of under steer if anything off throttle/corner entry.

I would post my set up but this forum seems to suck at the moment to post attachments...

here is what i ended up with from Gee's set up; front unchanged exept for susp. rate 71.96(a4.0,b4.0), rear; outer shim 1.75, inner shims, 3.0, susp. rate 63.35(a4.0 b5.4), camber 2.0, toe 3.0, 3.6mm over ride drop, 1.0sway bar, diff 2000. I am also using AM06m in the rear, and AT21 no shims all around.
Asphalt or carpet? Either way you should definitely reduce rear droop to start.
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Asphalt or carpet? Either way you should definitely reducd rear droop to start.
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Hmmm, I wonder what chassis I'm running in this body at IIC . Looking forward to a strong Awesomatix showing next week.
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Usually for A700 car the rear susp. rate should be bigger than the front one. Please check.
I started with the rates swapped, higher in rear, car would over rotate at the slightest throttle input out of the corner. first change i tried was to soften the rear and stiffen the front.

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Asphalt or carpet? Either way you should definitely reduce rear droop to start.
Carpet. Was the first club race of the season, track was kinda dirty, would say low to med grip, no real groove. How would rear droop have an effect on on- power loose? Does this car squat or rise in the rear on acceleration?

I will also say, for club races, the track usually only comes up to med. traction. I do have another set of AM06S, should I try these in the rear in place of the M's? And should I get a set of AT21S to try?
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Good luck to all the A700 drivers at the IIC.... Hanulec, please win the 17.5 blinky class...lol....
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I started with the rates swapped, higher in rear, car would over rotate at the slightest throttle input out of the corner. first change i tried was to soften the rear and stiffen the front.



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Carpet. Was the first club race of the season, track was kinda dirty, would say low to med grip, no real groove. How would rear droop have an effect on on- power loose? Does this car squat or rise in the rear on acceleration?

I will also say, for club races, the track usually only comes up to med. traction. I do have another set of AM06S, should I try these in the rear in place of the M's? And should I get a set of AT21S to try?
The rear of the car still rolls at corner exit, especially with the rear so soft like you have it. Taking droop out will make the car dump over less, which will make it much easier to drive. The am06s in the rear should help, the M blocks make the rear get out of the track more I think. Ive never ran the short balls, so im not sure if it will help you with my setup. They are good to have if you want to try a larry/hanulec setup though as they run those. Their setups tend to be less touchy than mine so if my setup doesn't work for you theirs might.
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