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Old 05-18-2014, 08:30 AM   #6436
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I had a good day yesterday in Toledo with a TQ and win in both 17.5 and mod TC.

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I had a good day yesterday in Toledo with a TQ and win in both 17.5 and mod TC.

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Old 05-19-2014, 06:50 AM   #6439
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Thanks guys! It was nice to run some asphalt even though it was only 50 degrees with some wind thrown in.

The track in Toledo is a must attend/buckett list type track and if you ever get the chance to go I recomend it.

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Old 05-19-2014, 07:44 AM   #6440
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I sold my A700 with lot of parts.

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Old 05-19-2014, 03:56 PM   #6442
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Question for the awesomatix masses.

Running 17.5 blinky on med traction carpet and trying to find a setup I like. I've looked through the setup sheets on the website and I don't see much for an evo with a 17.5.

Since I have the parts for the L and Evo, is there any advantage to going back to the L configuration?
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Question for the awesomatix masses.

Running 17.5 blinky on med traction carpet and trying to find a setup I like. I've looked through the setup sheets on the website and I don't see much for an evo with a 17.5.

Since I have the parts for the L and Evo, is there any advantage to going back to the L configuration?
I believe Fairtrace's setup for 17.5 from Snowbirds is an EVO. You can also try anyone's 13.5 setups for the EVO, they should work well in 17.5. Check out Kyle's ROAR nats 13.5 setup. You might have to adjust the sway-bars depending on traction and tires.
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I believe Fairtrace's setup for 17.5 from Snowbirds is an EVO. You can also try anyone's 13.5 setups for the EVO, they should work well in 17.5. Check out Kyle's ROAR nats 13.5 setup. You might have to adjust the sway-bars depending on traction and tires.
I actually tried Kyle's 13.5 setup, just messing around. Because I bought mine used, I'm trying to figure out how to use the topdeck with the evo setup.

And I found a diagram
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If your running on lower grip or your tires are on the harder side like the Gravity tires we used at MHIC try more droop. 2.5 - 3mm in the front and 3-3.5mm in the back over ride height. We found harder tires like these need more droop for the car to be fast.

If you start traction rolling back out droop until it stops but go no less than 1mm in the front and 1.5 in the back. Start making other changes like softening the suspension.
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Ricky- what is your driving style?
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Brent, we run sweep 28's with paragon black, really soft tires especially after a few hard runs.

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I don't really know how to describe it (besides crappy). l like the car to roll more than a stiff setup. Larry's birds setup feels better to me than Kyle's 13.5 setup did. I removed the top deck and the setup felt better.
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28 tires + black can paragon. sounds like a lot of grip.

the reason i ask how you drive is that on carpet people can get away with a bunch of different styles (less so on asphalt, in my option). i know larry drives w/ a lot of push brake and focuses on a slow in, fast out approach. kyle uses a drag brake + toss the car into the corner approach. both can work -- but the setups are VERY different.

with such high carpet, it is hard to get a lower roll center than what larry ran. only adding at21s could make it much lower.
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Brent, we run sweep 28's with paragon black, really soft tires especially after a few hard runs.



I don't really know how to describe it (besides crappy). l like the car to roll more than a stiff setup. Larry's birds setup feels better to me than Kyle's 13.5 setup did. I removed the top deck and the setup felt better.
Ya this could definitely be on the higher traction side. Even though I was not running a EVO you could try my Carpet Nats setup. It does require the AT21S arm balls, for me this was key. At home after Nats when I ran very grippe Sweeps this setup was unbeatable even against Kyle at 5280. If you need more steering make the front sway-bar smaller or even remove it. My driving style is more on the less aggressive side. I turn the wheel slower into and through the turn instead of whipping the car around the corner and get on the throttle smoother than most. I'm am surprised you liked the car with out the top deck. Most at 5280 on high traction carpet the top deck on an EVO with the C01AL chassis.
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Ya this could definitely be on the higher traction side. Even though I was not running a EVO you could try my Carpet Nats setup. It does require the AT21S arm balls, for me this was key. At home after Nats when I ran very grippe Sweeps this setup was unbeatable even against Kyle at 5280. If you need more steering make the front sway-bar smaller or even remove it. My driving style is more on the less aggressive side. I turn the wheel slower into and through the turn instead of whipping the car around the corner and get on the throttle smoother than most. I'm am surprised you liked the car with out the top deck. Most at 5280 on high traction carpet the top deck on an EVO with the C01AL chassis.
As of this moment I'm running larry's setup with no top deck, 2k xray diff oil rear, at21s. I tried it with the top deck and it just felt too stiff but that was before I put on the at21s or the 2k diff. The car is pushy into the sweeper but better than it was.

After much debate with my track pals, I drive more like Kyle than Larry. I did try Kyle's setup though and it didn't feel too great. I'm just messing with the car, since I have a couple of different setups that are okay adaptations of other people's setups.

I would like to find that magic base setup, and I don't feel like I'm there. We are two weeks from the start of our summer Electric series and the first race is our only indoor race. That's the deadline for finding that magic baseline.

On a side note, I got the sample back from my father-in-law for my new pit cover. Background material will be grey and less space between the logos.

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