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Old 10-19-2011, 08:43 AM   #616
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I would highly doubt you'll see any torque steer with the motor. The torque steer in previous cars was mainly generated by the weight of a brushed armature spinning up. A BL Motor has very minimal weight to spin. If you hold an old brushed motor in your had and spin it up on a motor machine and rev it you can feel the motor try to twist in your hand. If you do this with a BL motor you can see a drastic difference. There is very minimal twisting. What is twisting is going to be offset by the twisting of the drive shaft in the opposite direction on the car.

At least this is how I view it and dealing with motors for a long time. Im sure Oleg can give a more technical explanation as well as soon as he has a moment.

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Old 10-19-2011, 09:02 AM   #617
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thank EA, now you say it that makes a lot of sense. Maybe I will have to reconsider how I set the car up.

I am just trying to determine the benefits or losses I guess in my case of the different motor positions.

I've never got on previously with cars with longitudinal mounted motors so guess thats partly the reason I'm swaying towards the transverse position but as you have correctly mentioned that would have been with brushed motors which have very different characteristics
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Old 10-20-2011, 06:28 AM   #618
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Hi Subliminal,

I have only run the car for one club day so far.

Our track is low grip ashfalt so my setup wont be much good to you. I suggest you build the kit to the standard setup as it seem it was made more for high grip surfaces (short upper arms etc).

In regards to the torque steer, it is non existant as EAmotosports said. Those days dissapeared with brushed motors. I ran and will be running the car in the longtitudal layout and have not noticed a thing.

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Old 10-20-2011, 06:37 AM   #619
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Ok so I guess my question is - What am I going to loose out on by running the car with the transverse motor postion in say 13.5. Is it just purely making sure I can hit the ratios I need need with raised internal ratio or am I missing something.

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Old 10-20-2011, 06:45 AM   #620
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The biggest downfall will be that you will not be fully utilizing one of the biggest advantages of running this car in stock. The insane efficiency of the the simple longtitudal layout. Adding 2 more gears to the drive train will decrease that advantage you will have over all the belt driven cars slightly.

The advantage is not so apparent in modified as it is not a big power class. I run modified and the one thing i noticed power delivery wise was how instantly the car responds to throttle input.
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Old 10-20-2011, 10:40 AM   #621
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this just might have to be my christmas present...

what is the turn around when the order is placed? i understand it is slow due to limited supply of parts. would you say 3 weeks or so?

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Old 10-20-2011, 12:26 PM   #622
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wow.. really nice! Grats Oleg, I hope you do well so we can see more of your car in stores!
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Veloctygt, did you try some throttle acceleration, and expo yet ? It will be too fast !!! You might have to accelerate your steering too...
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did anyone received their kit yet? if so any feedback on the first batch? anything missing, etc... any pics of the build. i just want it to know before placing an order.

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@Oleg,

will you be at the ETS next week ? think your dirvers will attend ?

@all ..

we have received 3 kits ..all mounted and all perfect ..so no worry on any missing pieces etc... this is just a prefect build and never had so much fun on mounting a chassis ...
first rollout will be on sunday so think it will be a great weekend ..

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Old 10-21-2011, 01:17 AM   #626
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@Oleg,

will you be at the ETS next week ? think your dirvers will attend ?

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I am missing this ETS round. Too much busy at our factory now.

Please ask Steen, Ivan, Martin and Andreas Mundt for help.
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You never know, someone else might show up at the ets with the A700....
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@Oleg,
thanks for reply and good work in Taiwan

@all
yes we will be at the event with 2 more A700 cars from luxembourg
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Nice job Oleg. Hands-on with your product. THAT'S quality assurance at its best
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