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Old 01-27-2014, 01:35 PM   #5431
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Are the current FFG upgrade kits shipping with C31S or C31? Is there an identifying feature that differentiates between C31S and C31? I just finished upgrading my car but there isn't very much side to side resistance.

I have another question regarding C21. Looks like I got a prototype top deck rather than the production top deck, center hole is 7mm. I have read you should run a bearing, washer and screw for this configuration. This combo allows a lot more movement than the production C21 with a 6mm hole.
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Side to side it does feel free and this is normal due to the long leverage point even with the stiffer tube. What you will really feel with the stiffer tube is the resistance to twisting.

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Side to side it does feel free and this is normal due to the long leverage point even with the stiffer tube. What you will really feel with the stiffer tube is the resistance to twisting.

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Thanks Kody,
I wasn't expecting it to move this easily. I fully expect the gear box to move, under it's own weight, in high G corners and sweepers. You can see deflection when you tilt the car on it's side.
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Old 01-27-2014, 06:51 PM   #5433
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Damper question:
Under what conditions (e.g. track, motor) would the the asymmetric damper mode be a better choice than the factory set symmetric?
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Old 01-27-2014, 06:55 PM   #5434
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Damper question:
Under what conditions (e.g. track, motor) would the the asymmetric damper mode be a better choice than the factory set symmetric?
I like asymmetric for low grip asphalt. It lets the front end react and turn in more quickly, and lets the rear squat better on power without making the rear become unstable on entry or the front lose too much grip on exit.
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:11 PM   #5435
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Default A700 Evo USA SPEC 1/10 Electric Touring Car

hey all,
I'm in the process of pulling the trigger on the A700 Evo USA SPEC 1/10 Electric Touring Car.
Can you let me know what optional parts I should get, gears for 17.5 64p 3.50-4.0 fdr, and spares???
Thank you in advance for any help you can provide.....

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Old 01-27-2014, 07:14 PM   #5436
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With AM26 you need a lot of shims to get the desirable low roll center.
I'm looking at V.Kutvonen's 12/11/12 setup using AM26 and it doesn't look like he used any shims under it. How does his setup correlate with your quote of using a lot of shims?
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hey all,
I'm in the process of pulling the trigger on the A700 Evo USA SPEC 1/10 Electric Touring Car.
Can you let me know what optional parts I should get, gears for 17.5 64p 3.50-4.0 fdr, and spares???
Thank you in advance for any help you can provide.....

http://www.awesomatixusa.com/p/parts.html

Scroll down to spares.
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How do you guys remove P03 from AT21? I have to add some spacers under AT21...
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Greetings!

Hi Oleg and all.

I would just like to ask if I were to use the asymmetric mode, do I need to set the set screw m3x4 all the way until I feel it locks or just half way through?

2nd, Regarding the shimming on AM26 to make the roll-center pretty much lower, can you provide a tip on proper shimming? I have this setting on mine (picture attached). Did I achieve what you're suggesting on your previous comment, Oleg?



I am racing on asphalt here and I think that asymmetric mode fits better + much lower roll center. It is stable and consistent but I want to push further. I'll post a feedback once I'm done testing this new set-up

Here's the track here just right beside the Formula 1 race track (Bahrain Grand Prix).




Thanks in advance. Cheers.

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Thanks Mike for the clarification. I guess we'll hook up after Snowbirds to get the correct chassis in my kit so I can start the build
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Greetings!
Hi Oleg and all.
I would just like to ask if I were to use the asymmetric mode, do I need to set the set screw m3x4 all the way until I feel it locks or just half way through?
2nd, Regarding the shimming on AM26 to make the roll-center pretty much lower, can you provide a tip on proper shimming? I have this setting on mine (picture attached). Did I achieve what you're suggesting on your previous comment, Oleg?

I am racing on asphalt here and I think that asymmetric mode fits better + much lower roll center. It is stable and consistent but I want to push further. I'll post a feedback once I'm done testing this new set-up
Here's the track here just right beside the Formula 1 race track (Bahrain Grand Prix).

Thanks in advance. Cheers.
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1. You should screw SS3X4 full way till moderate tension.

2. AM26 were designed for rear suspension only. And it was designed for increasing of camber gain but not for lowering of the roll center. Our team drivers didn't have the experience of using AM26 on the front suspension.
So your feedback for this will be very interesting for me.
Usually the front suspension doesn't need so big camber gain as AM26 can provide. This is due to the proper front caster provides a lot of desirable "camber gain" for the turned front wheels.
You can find the setups with AM26 on http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/awes...matixA700.html
Please see Viljami Kutvonen carpet setups 19-20.01.2013 and 27.01.2013

To get the maximum possible camber gain with AM26 you have to use AM06S and lower inner AT21S with 0 shims.
With so increased camber gain you can reduce the initial camber to 0,5-1 deg and get the increasing of the initial tire contact patch.
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Thank you for the clarification/s Oleg. I'll see how it goes. Lotsa options with A700 that's why I am loving TC racing nowadays instead of 1/8 nitro onroad.

Cheers.

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Mike- My kit is missing P10: diff covers. Let me know what process ordering it. Thank you!
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Will setups using the AM26 work on an EVO? It looks like the front hole choice for 27-1-13 and 19-20.01.2013 are not possible on an EVO.
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