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Old 09-14-2013, 10:48 PM   #4336
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Congrats to Karl Hoffmeister for his TQ and Win of the Middle River Hobbies IIC Warmup. Now if only Karl was going to IIC ... but he needs to worry about graduating college first...
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on another note -- anyone looking to attend IIC and run 17.5 or 13.5 should take a look at Mike Gee's 17.5 Club setup from 7 September 2013. i got a chance to run this today. it is very good, finishes super strong, nice and consistent, not too loose.

http://www.awesomatixusa.com/p/setup-sheets.html

i also have a personal 'loose' setup that i've been working on. it could be good for anyone willing to hang onto a car. i haven't written this one down yet... but i will soon.
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Old 09-15-2013, 02:00 AM   #4338
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Congrats to Karl Hoffmeister for his TQ and Win of the Middle River Hobbies IIC Warmup. Now if only Karl was going to IIC ... but he needs to worry about graduating college first...
Сongratulations, Karl !

Michael, please add the diff gears info ( metal or plastic, 2 or 4 satellite gears ) into setup sheets from US drivers.
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Try 0.2mm gear side and 0.1mm bell side. Metal or plastic. Meshing tighter, but without binding actually makes the diff smoother especially with the metal gears.
Its quite notchy even when shimmed correctly but seems ok on the track.
For me our metal gears are smoother with 2-3 pcs of 0.1mm shims total for both sides under inner B85 bearings and the plastic gears are smoother without any shims or with one shim only.
Please try to change the orientation of P17 plastic cross also as this part is not 100% symmetric.
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Сongratulations, Karl !

Michael, please add the diff gears info ( metal or plastic, 2 or 4 satellite gears ) into setup sheets from US drivers.
Will do from now on.

Nearly 100% of the setups posted have metal gears with the complete set of satellite gears

What are the advantages of two gear setups?

When running only two satellite gears, how much additional oil weight is required?
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For me our metal gears are smoother with 2-3 pcs of 0.1mm shims total for both sides under inner B85 bearings and the plastic gears are smoother without any shims or with one shim only.
Please try to change the orientation of P17 plastic cross also as this part is not 100% symmetric.
Running the plastic gears without shims usually yields extreme tooth wear. At least one sh01 is required to prevent tooth decay
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Old 09-15-2013, 06:42 AM   #4342
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What are the advantages of two gear setups?
When running only two satellite gears, how much additional oil weight is required?
Some of drivers suppose that their diffs are smoother with two metal gears. Two gears need ~1.5 times thicker oil usually.
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For me our metal gears are smoother with 2-3 pcs of 0.1mm shims total for both sides under inner B85 bearings and the plastic gears are smoother without any shims or with one shim only.
Please try to change the orientation of P17 plastic cross also as this part is not 100% symmetric.

Some of drivers suppose that their diffs are smoother with two metal gears. Two gears need ~1.5 times thicker oil usually.
So you are saying that I could need up to .3mm shims on both sides for the metal gears for a total of .6mm?

Also I thought running 2 gears was not a good thing to do. I am not planning on running anything faster then 17.5 any time soon so maybe this is only an issue in mod?
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For me our metal gears are smoother with 2-3 pcs of 0.1mm shims total for/of both sides under inner B85 bearings and the plastic gears are smoother without any shims or with one shim only.
Please try to change the orientation of P17 plastic cross also as this part is not 100% symmetric.
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So you are saying that I could need up to .3mm shims on both sides for the metal gears for a total of .6mm?

Also I thought running 2 gears was not a good thing to do. I am not planning on running anything faster then 17.5 any time soon so maybe this is only an issue in mod?
See above quote again....I hope I'm thinking that out correctly
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Old 09-15-2013, 09:55 AM   #4345
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See above quote again....I hope I'm thinking that out correctly
I was thinking this as well, but wanted to make sure before I go trying to stuff in .6mm and .3mm was really the max. However when I look at the picture for the diff mod it does show .1mm on the left and up to .3mm on the right making it a total of .4mm. So .6mm doesn't seem far off.

Also from the mod picture the shims should be between the B85 bearings and the OR05 o-ring correct?

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Oleg,

You have PM

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For all the gear diff shim talk, is that for the ST07 or ST26 out drives? Or do you shim them the same? I run the ST07's and have to use 0.4mm total shims with my plastic gears to make my diff smooth/reliable.
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I was thinking this as well, but wanted to make sure before I go trying to stuff in .6mm and .3mm was really the max. However when I look at the picture for the diff mod it does show .1mm on the left and up to .3mm on the right making it a total of .4mm. So .6mm doesn't seem far off.
Also from the mod picture the shims should be between the B85 bearings and the OR05 o-ring correct?
This picture is our recommendation for the first A700 cars.
We have used the original Spec-R plastic gears for our diffs that time and this recommendation included ST20 modification also.
Our current plastic gears are a bit wider and need less shims in average.
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I'm looking at getting a awesomatix for 17.5 Blinky, which kit should I get and what extra parts would be best to buy?

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I'm looking at getting a awesomatix for 17.5 Blinky, which kit should I get and what extra parts would be best to buy?

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Most people I see on here are running the A700L USA version for stock and the EXL for Mod.

Here is a post about the spare parts. http://www.rctech.net/forum/9984890-post1002.html
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