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Old 07-10-2013, 05:56 PM
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lowered balls - AT21S - already gone, but more are on the way..
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by syndr0me
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What's the right way to remove the outdrives from the spool should I ever need to replace them or replace a bearing?
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Please pull out the ST07 outdrives with force.

I am using two screw drivers inserted into ST07 holes as the grips at the first stage.
Some ST07 can be very tight at removing ( due to the manufacturing tolerance) so please don't hesitate to apply more force.
In case of you have removed one side ST07 the second ST07 can be removing also by inserting of the 2mm steel rod ( wire) into the axial hole of the spool and the further pounding on this rod.
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Finally got a win after some bad luck in the first few races. I've always been on pace to win, just hit with crazy bad luck so far.

Click on the picture below to see my racereport with pictures, videos and setups.





Also a shorter version posted on Redrc



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Congrats John..
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Originally Posted by hanulec
the spr02 might not be sitting right w/in the dampener. do you see that the st05 is scratching the shock holders? you can also potentially hear a 'clicking' noise as you move the arm...

you must adjust the depth of the spr02 w/in the shock slot. someone has posted a trick of using part of a paper clip to provide additional spacing between the spr02 and shock body. i generally just move the spr02 in and out re-adjusting the set screw until it runs perfectly.
tried that..the slop seems to be in between the spr02 and spr01s the square hole..no matter where I put the spr02 it still has slop and play..the st05 doesn't make contact for libe 2 to 3 mm travel
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by i am cornholio
tried that..the slop seems to be in between the spr02 and spr01s the square hole..no matter where I put the spr02 it still has slop and play..the st05 doesn't make contact for libe 2 to 3 mm travel
Please use the pictures attached for checking of the proper shape of your SPR02, proper mounting of SPR02 on the damper's axis and SPR02/ST05/SPR01/AM17/AM08-1 proper mutual position after mounting on the lower deck.

All this is very important for the correct damper/spring operation.
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Originally Posted by i am cornholio
tried that..the slop seems to be in between the spr02 and spr01s the square hole..no matter where I put the spr02 it still has slop and play..the st05 doesn't make contact for libe 2 to 3 mm travel
If I were you I would:

(edit) 1a. Do what Oleg says !
1b. check to make sure the car isn't holding a bad set ( tweak ) by loosening the top deck and even loosening and retightening the bulkhead screws then retightening the top deck screws while on a flat surface while chassis is sitting on flat "droop" blocks.
2. make sure all camber and caster settings are accurate and suspension moves freely ( tops of ball cups are set such they don't bind , etc )
3. reset ride height ! ( important ! )
4. check to make sure front and rear droop ( down stops ) are set properly / evenly left to right ( important ! )
5. if there continues to be a difference between left and right free movement go back to step 1a. Sometimes I will bend the tip of SPR02 very slightly to take the difference out ( a small bend takes a lot of free movement out ! ) Lastly I will make SPR02 just a little flatter than it is but usually only in extreme cases ( like yours ). Again, see the pictures Oleg provided.

note, I'd also check to make sure you have the appropriate shims under AT21 on that corner ( and the diagonal corner ) and that ST03 is completely screwed into AM06. I know I've overlooked this once and also I have forgotten to set the droop / down-stop on a corner so I thought I had a similar issue when there wasn't really a problem.

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Thanks Oleg and Jake -- my recommendation would be to check--

Are your ride height screws equally screwed in at all four corners?

Is the type 1/type 2 spring setting performed equally/symetrically?
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not trying to bursts anyones bubbles..but this car is new to me..i have tried all and now that I look at it..its like the 2nd picture that oleg shows..so I guess that it is bent or wrong..i will try bending it see if that helps..yes all downstops and ride height are set correctly..been doing this for long time..lol..just this corner is stubborn..im down to trying to bend spr02 I guess see if that fixes it
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ok..so took apart again to check how oleg said..spr02 was def bad..so I did what jake said and bent it almost flat..put back together..looks and feels good now..was gonna test tonight, but weather prevails..thx again everyone for help
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So when I'm reading setup sheets, how do I tell what holes people are putting the links into? Nobody seems to indicate whether they're using AM19, AM18-1 or something else. I'm all for experimenting and trying things on my own, but I'm not really sure where to start. I have access to AM19 and whatever comes stock on the A700L.

I'm just trying to find a good place to start setup wise with the car on carpet (Jaco Blue).
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peep this link syndrome - http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/awes...A700vsA700EXL/

it shows the setup location differences between the bulkheads/am18/am19. on my setups i also show am18 or 19 if used. if folks don't mention am18 or am19 and show the #3 hole then it is the bulkhead outside location.

also, the am18 outside hole (shortest link) is equal to the am19 inside hole (longest link)
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Originally Posted by syndr0me
So when I'm reading setup sheets, how do I tell what holes people are putting the links into? Nobody seems to indicate whether they're using AM19, AM18-1 or something else. I'm all for experimenting and trying things on my own, but I'm not really sure where to start. I have access to AM19 and whatever comes stock on the A700L.
I'm just trying to find a good place to start setup wise with the car on carpet (Jaco Blue).
http://www.rctech.net/forum/11495004-post2697.html
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Perfect. Thank you hanulec and Oleg, that's exactly what I was looking for!
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Originally Posted by Oleg Babich
Also, for anybody else reading through this thread that may have the same questions I did, your next question might be "how does AM19 compare to AM18-1?" That answer too has already been posted.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/12217975-post3568.html
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