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Old 06-03-2013, 06:12 AM   #3571
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Other little questions ;-)

-Why do you use EX chassis plate in stead of L chassis plate? I mean: when do you recommend using EX chassis for stock racers (10.5t/13.5t/17.5t in blinky mode)?

-In which conditions do you recommend using #3 damper? (outdoor/indoor, low/high grip,...). Are those dampers often used by drivers?

Other thing: racers use more often AM18-1 in stead of AM19 (q.v. Viljami or Freddy set-up @ ETS carpet race), is there any particular reason?

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Old 06-03-2013, 08:54 AM   #3572
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Great questions (and my phone lost my first response... So this one will be shorter)
Ex/exl chassis vs l chassis -- I haven't gone back to back with the same setup yet. I suspect it will really be a fine tuning like change. On asphalt I believe the preference will be ex/exl due to rear bite. At the Reedy Kyle ran a A700EXL and Austin and Aaron ran the A700L -- they where the same speed -- fast!

#3 dampeners -- I ran them in Florida at the ROAR Nats. To be fair, I was still figuring out the car and how to tune it back then. In the heat of the sun I couldnt get the car to stop feeling springy. In the morning/evenings the car was really good.. But the change during the hot day wasn't something I could keep up with. The #3 I think will be very good indoors when not hot and outdoors in low grip scenarios.

I'll defer to Oleg or others on why folks are running am18 vs am19.
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:15 AM   #3573
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Once again, thanks a lot for your help
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:28 AM   #3574
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Am18-1 vs AM19

AM18-1 doesn't obscure removing the gear diff like AM19 does. ( not a big deal but.... A little less hassle ...,
But AM18-1 does make top deck removal a bit more of a hassle. It just depends on where your upper inner links are attached whether this is a hassle or not.
AM18-1 also allows a few more positions for fine tuning the upper link length.

AM19 allows lower inner upper links ( compared to Am18-1 ) This is nice !
Am19 also is stronger than AM18-1
It also offers a shorter position for inner upper links. ( see picture a few posts back )

My preference is to use AM19 on asphalt more than Carpet. I used Am18-1 on carpet because it gave more finer adjustment and because I tended not to use low inner ball position on carpet.

By the way, AM26 is the other good alternative for shorter upper links to achieve the most camber gain with less chance of ball / cup binding.
Also you can add more shims to the outside of upper links without fear of rubbing the wheels.

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Old 06-03-2013, 10:43 AM   #3575
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Thanks Jake.

And you, what do you think about using the EXL chassis plate in stock category (blinky 10.5t for example)?

Same question for #3 dampers ;-)

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Old 06-03-2013, 10:59 AM   #3576
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Thanks Jake.

And you, what do you think about using the EXL chassis plate in stock category (blinky 10.5t for example)?

Same question for #3 dampers ;-)

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I really haven't tested the #3 dampers enough to make an opinion. I've been distracted by other things. Hopefully soon...

As far as the EXL vs the L , I think Mike answered it very well. It's a fine tuning thing. It really depends on your driving style. The EX chassis seems to have a little more rear grip but that can translate into less corner speed. The slower the class the L seems to have a slight advantage especially as grip increases.... But as Mike said, it is tough to say without back to back testing which I haven't done.

Also the L is a bit narrower , so there is less chassis rub than the EXL. Tough choice ! I tend to lean towards the EXL but only because I'm focusing more on Mod these days.

But to answer your question directly, it's a tough call but I'd get the EXL for 10.5 blinky.

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Super cool, thanks for your reply, will try first with the L chassis and then, we'll see ;-)
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I ordered the L chassis as well. Im super excited, should be here like thursday. After watching the cars at reedy and racing with Kyle... yea this is the stock car for sure! The 17.5 guys were running same lap times as the 13.5. Not sure I will know how to build it.. but i cant wait!
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I ordered the L chassis as well. Im super excited, should be here like thursday. After watching the cars at reedy and racing with Kyle... yea this is the stock car for sure! The 17.5 guys were running same lap times as the 13.5. Not sure I will know how to build it.. but i cant wait!
Just take your time. Make sure you find a flathead screw driver that is 2.5 mm wide. That makes the build of the axles go a lot smoother.
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I ordered the L chassis as well. Im super excited, should be here like thursday. After watching the cars at reedy and racing with Kyle... yea this is the stock car for sure! The 17.5 guys were running same lap times as the 13.5. Not sure I will know how to build it.. but i cant wait!
and this is coming from the 3rd place finisher in 17.5T at the Reedy Race!

Ryan was smart enough to see the advantage. lets see who else is
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Just take your time. Make sure you find a flathead screw driver that is 2.5 mm wide. That makes the build of the axles go a lot smoother.
Set a pinion gear near the end of the screw driver tip to limit it.
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Anybody switched to ceramic Bearings yet ???
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hope to see a bunch of Awesomatix drivers at IIC this year. Scotty just opened up registrations...
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Good morning!

I would just like to ask before getting a set of optional parts.

Mike/Oleg,

Do this set-up (which I accidentally saw whilst browsing the web for possible settings) requires the combination of AM19 and AM18-1?





Thanks in advance and cheers to all!

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Good morning!
I would just like to ask before getting a set of optional parts.
Mike/Oleg,
Do this set-up (which I accidentally saw whilst browsing the web for possible settings) requires the combination of AM19 and AM18-1?


Thanks in advance and cheers to all!
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This is the classic old A700 on the pictures.
AM19 were the standard kit's parts for holding of the diff and spool that time.
AM18 ( not AM18-1 !) is on the picture also.
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