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Old 10-16-2010, 11:58 AM   #181
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Torque steer in created by placing the motor parallel to the chassis like the TC4. For lower turn motors (mod) this was a big problem, for high turn (stock) it was not as noticable.

By placing the motor perpendicular to the chassis, like today's belt cars, you eliminate this problem.

This is why all the car makers went to belt transmissions.

This car solved this issue by adding bevel gears from the spear gear to the drive-shaft. Over-all the shaft drive car should be quicker out of a corner because there's no belt stretch.
cheers, I see now, I knew about the old shafty,s I wounder how long it will take other manufactures to convert if this works
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Old 10-17-2010, 06:23 PM   #182
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So how did it do at the ETS?
Did it live up to the performance claims posted on this thread?
Doesn't look like there is room for a gear diff
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Old 10-17-2010, 06:43 PM   #183
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cheers, I see now, I knew about the old shafty,s I wounder how long it will take other manufactures to convert if this works
This is also why the older shaft drive cars get new life in VTA. The slow brushless motors still torque the chassis, but its not near as noticeable.

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Doesn't look like there is room for a gear diff
Yeah! It looks tight but I think if they wanted to do it they could get a gear diff jammed in there. Looks like they have a ball diff in the back and a spool up front.
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Old 11-25-2010, 04:22 AM   #184
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Great pictures, they speak a 1,000 words.

Unfortunately I feel the one key thing that is missing here is regular updates from Oleg Babich (or anyone else senior) to advise how the car is performing, how the development is going and what plans there are to distribute this car.

Going a long time without any info is not good for business on a new product.

I cannot see it clearly enough from the pictures, but are the diff outdrives and the driveshaft ends both metal?

If so, surely metal outdrives and plastic replaceable ends would be better on the wear rate/cost for the user?
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Old 11-25-2010, 08:27 AM   #185
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I cannot see it clearly enough from the pictures, but are the diff outdrives and the driveshaft ends both metal?

If so, surely metal outdrives and plastic replaceable ends would be better on the wear rate/cost for the user?
Looks like it has a small ball bearing on the ends of the pins.
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Looks like it has a small ball bearing on the ends of the pins.
I thought it might have looked like that too, but wasnt sure

i've not seen much if any information regarding the specification of the car to confirm.

if it is a bearing, it looks like a very durable solution, but if not, metal on metal could wear quite quickly, depending on its material.
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Old 11-25-2010, 09:46 AM   #187
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Looks like it has a small ball bearing on the ends of the pins.
Didn't LOSI do the same thing with the JRXS?
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Didn't LOSI do the same thing with the JRXS?
I think it is more something B. Kinwald did, it's called the BK bones. I never saw it on a production car. D.Spashett's XXXS has had some.
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The crown and pinion gears will also need very good shimming on this car, or they can fail quite quickly (I know this from the tenth technology predator which uses a similar transmission layout).

But a large root dimension of the gears is the most needed factor, being an on road car it should hold up better.
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No matter how badly I setup the mesh of the bevel gears on my TC3, I never managed to break one single tooth, even when running mod/ into the boards / with a spool.

The hpi pro4 and TTech cars were famous for this weakness, though. So I assume it is more a matter of material than an inherent drawback of this design. The metal gears of the aweomatix look sturdy enough to me. Do the plastic gears come from a Pro4 ? I know previous prototypes used pro4 transmission cases.
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The hpi pro4 and TTech cars were famous for this weakness, though. So I assume it is more a matter of material than an inherent drawback of this design. The metal gears of the aweomatix look sturdy enough to me.
Yes, they increased the root dimension on the later ttech cars, which led to better reliability. Material, root dimension and how the gears are shimmed are the factors to determine reliability.

I'm not saying the Awesomatix will encounter the same problem, i'm just saying that sometimes a crown and pinion transmission layout can be tempermental.
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Latest pictures ( at race in Vladimir City, Russia).
Virtually the production car.
All bevel gears made of steel.
Spool weight 12.7 gr ( A7075 body with steel gear and outdrives + bearings).
Diff weight 22.7 gr (A7075 sealed body with steel gear and outdrives + bearings).
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looks great oleg, much more polished looking car.

how did it go?
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looks great oleg, much more polished looking car.

how did it go?
Hi, Bradd

Looks nice on the track also.
At least we have won a 13.5 class this time.
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Car does look great! Have you established an estimated release date and price of the kit?

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