F1 setup/tech discussion
#31
Tech Rookie
please keep the tips comming, this thread is great for a newb like me.
thanks to all that contribute.
Tony V
thanks to all that contribute.
Tony V
#33
I practiced today. Went to 30,000 oil on the dampner plates. The car stayed flat as a board around the track, especially with the dampner spring tightened down. I also went to 20 wt oil in the shock from 40wt, figuring the extra dampening on the plates was a bit much with 40wt oil. The track had some bumps and this helped. Tires were HBR med fronts, glued sidewall, and HBR soft rear.
#37
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Silver Can Gearing
Anyone have favorite gear ratios for the silver can on carpet for 64 pitch gears? I just ordered the teflon spacer to fit standard 64 pitch spurs. Right now to keep the same physical dimensions and gear ratio, I have a 92/25 ready to go in. What I don't know is do the silver cans like a higher or lower ratio from the box stock 63/17 (92/25) and FDR of 3.7?
#38
In 1/12 moving the pivot balls up or down will move the roll center up or down.
The problem with Tamiya cars is that your going to be cutting stuff up a lot of times to move roll centers, which you may or may not care about, unless you race TCS.
#39
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Thanks for that Rob, I'll have to try and get hold of some of Smith's books - they sound like interesting reading.
I should get the last of the parts to build my 103 tomorrow (GT to RM conversion).
I have heard mention of some using the GT front suspension - hingepins on the upper arm and suspension balls on the king pins.
Have you or any others here, tried this?
Although I dont yet have the RM king pins or RM front arms, I am not sure if the GT suspension will work as the diameter of the suspension balls appears from illustrations to be much thicker than the RM arms, and might overcompress the springs and limit travel.
Any advice and tips would be appreciated. I am keen to use them as I have a 3 Racing upgrade that allows castor setting.
Kevin
I should get the last of the parts to build my 103 tomorrow (GT to RM conversion).
I have heard mention of some using the GT front suspension - hingepins on the upper arm and suspension balls on the king pins.
Have you or any others here, tried this?
Although I dont yet have the RM king pins or RM front arms, I am not sure if the GT suspension will work as the diameter of the suspension balls appears from illustrations to be much thicker than the RM arms, and might overcompress the springs and limit travel.
Any advice and tips would be appreciated. I am keen to use them as I have a 3 Racing upgrade that allows castor setting.
Kevin
#40
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Anyone have favorite gear ratios for the silver can on carpet for 64 pitch gears? I just ordered the teflon spacer to fit standard 64 pitch spurs. Right now to keep the same physical dimensions and gear ratio, I have a 92/25 ready to go in. What I don't know is do the silver cans like a higher or lower ratio from the box stock 63/17 (92/25) and FDR of 3.7?
Personally I don't think there is a favourite gear ratio for a specific motor on a specific surface. I think it's related track size, layout, and driving style.
Big track, long straights = low FDR
Small track, short straights and technical = high FDR
I race at two tracks, with a 19T brushed, same motor.
One is basketball court sized - FDR is around 8.5
240M track with 70M straight - FDR is around 6
Also the pitch of the gears makes no difference. Silver cans on a big track can be geared pretty hard. I have heard of people getting to the low 4's.
A good starting point is to gear such that you hit maximum speed before the end of the longest straight.
Then adjust for lap times.
Kevin
Last edited by kavadni; 12-03-2008 at 02:33 PM.
#41
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liljohn,
Personally I don't think there is a favourite gear ratio for a specific motor on a specific surface. I think it's related track size, layout, and driving style.
Big track, long straights = low FDR
Small track, short straights and technical = high FDR
I race at two tracks, with a 19T brushed, same motor.
One is basketball court sized - FDR is around 8.5
240M track with 70M straight - FDR is around 6
Also the pitch of the gears makes no difference. Silver cans on a big track can be geared pretty hard. I have heard of people getting to the low 4's.
A good starting point is to gear such that you hit maximum speed before the end of the longest straight.
Then adjust for lap times.
Kevin
Personally I don't think there is a favourite gear ratio for a specific motor on a specific surface. I think it's related track size, layout, and driving style.
Big track, long straights = low FDR
Small track, short straights and technical = high FDR
I race at two tracks, with a 19T brushed, same motor.
One is basketball court sized - FDR is around 8.5
240M track with 70M straight - FDR is around 6
Also the pitch of the gears makes no difference. Silver cans on a big track can be geared pretty hard. I have heard of people getting to the low 4's.
A good starting point is to gear such that you hit maximum speed before the end of the longest straight.
Then adjust for lap times.
Kevin
#43
Has anyone ever thought of running a soild axle? Is it even worth it?
#44
I don't know anything about F1 RC cars, but I am intrested in them. Does anyone make a rubber tire for the cars?
#45
TRG