Originally Posted by BP SHADOW

Yeah me too,whats up with that guy?

Originally Posted by e-guy1980

There is so much more to it than that, it's crazy. I really wanted to get involved in this class but I have pretty much given up just because of the ridiculousness I have seen already. The "issue" about that silver cans was actually a question about it's legality because it had been inadvertently left out of one set of rules when they were being transferred between websites. Someone questioned it because they wanted to be sure what the rules were and got accused of "stirring up sh**". I don't agree with the paint job rule, but would be more than willing to accept it, was it not for the pompous attitude some have displayed in regards to the rule. The statement "If you do not have the ability to paint and sticker, im sorry for your bad luck. Smiley and others will paint for you if you can afford it" from one of the "organizers" pretty much sums up the overall attitude and gives me a really sour impression of something that should be a wonderful class. These aren't the only things I've had issues with, but the ones that have most influenced my decision away form being involved in this class. And before someone says I'm just some newb who needs to keep my mouth shut, I have raced r/c or full scale cars in some form since 1987, I have seen more classes killed and tracks shut down by poor promotion than I can count, and overbearing or favoritist attitudes are most often to blame.

Originally Posted by InspGadgt

Wow I'm glad I don't run in TX...I can understand wanting the cars to look scale...however there should be some leeway in that. What happens when someone who hasn't ran there before comes with something different? Are you going to force them to buy a whole new body just to adhere to the rules.

As for forum bashing...DQ'ing people for what they say on the forums is just wrong. You have control over your race and track...you do not have control over RC Tech or other forums except your own. I would never ever censor one of my racers like that. I've always welcomed both positive and negative feedback in all the races I have organized.

Originally Posted by SourDieselX

Again, no one is forcing you, there's always room in the off-road scene though. Not giving you a "sour" attitude, but at some point the foot has to come down and these are the rules that we have decided to follow. I didn't make them, but I want to run the class, so I adhere to them, simple as that.

Originally Posted by bakaguyjean

I hope you are waiting to see what the cars actually look like before you start 2012 decals,they change at the first GP.

Originally Posted by SourDieselX

As stated to the other fellow, no one is forcing anyone to run. Not forcing you to buy a whole new body, there's no one holding a gun to you. Last, the forum bashing comment goes towards our local message board in which there was some serious threatening and bashing going on to extreme points, so that is where that comment is stemming from. We don't tolerate violence, threatening, nasty comments, etc.

Originally Posted by SourDieselX

For all those who are unsure of how to access the Houston Area F1 Racing Rules.


HOUSTON AREA FORMULA ONE RACING



Alright ladies and gents…..

Here are the rules:

NO Exceptions unless otherwise noted. Stewards reserve the right to accept or deny changes and are the final word.

Motor : 21.5/silver can TBA on F201 only
ESC :blinky mode, no timing
Tires : Rubber only, F1 scale
Body : F1 scale front & rear wing
Width : 205mm maximum
Battery: 2 cell lipo

Chassis accepted are all your Mfg chassis with upgraded chassis that are available to the public.

All Upgraded Chassis will be allowed under these conditions

You must run a Mfg rear and front end suspension off of a mfg 1/10 F1 car
-yes you can change front arms to turnbuckles or anyone elses upgrade *****”THAT IS SOLD TO THE PUBLIC”*****
-Exotech
-Rabbit
-Anyone that is making parts that can be sold is allowed

This is a scale STOCK class and will be treated as such, Your car must follow the livery (scheme) of a real 1:1 Formula team Preferably one that matches your chassis. F104/FGX=2009 and up, F103/f109 2008 and down

Racing format:

2-3(depending on turnout, 8 minute qualifiers with no pit stop. staggered start and you are on your own clock. TQ will be the driver with the most laps in 8 minutes

15min Amain with 1 stop and go pit stop that is not allowed until at least five minutes of the race has transpired. All other mains are 10 minutes with open pit stop time. (but still a stop and go pit stop.

PIT STOPS:

You must come to a COMPLETE stop within the designated pit box and then go. Failure to do so will force another pit stop.

Rules will be re evaluated every 6mths

If you have any questions on the above items please contact at [email protected]

Oh, one more thing…. The Bashing on the forum….. THIS WILL GET YOU DQ’ED from any of our races before you even get to park and set up your stuff. The Keyboard bashing is for facebook and myspace. Thank you guys for your time and interests. We hope to see you at the track!

Originally Posted by liljohn1064

I would change the livery rule, the rest looks great! I would take new racers in hand and ask them politely to paint it as a 1:1 livery from their favorite team.

Purely as the devil's advocate: Who says Richard Petty never ran F1? Gulf is not sponsoring a 2012 F1 car? Lotus is reviving the Indy winning paint scheme? Alfa Romeo and BRM are both putting cars in the field. I say if you have a picture of the actual race car and do your best to duplicate it, so be it.

Originally Posted by j.d.roost

I don't think "banning" the fgx is the answer either....
My point of view was the 200mm (at alot of tracks) cars were banned. Yet the fgx comes out and an exception was quickly made to the rules.(again..not everywhere..just for some of the larger clubs/races). Still leaving the folks that owned 200mm cars not able to race at every event.This sort of stuck in the craw of some of us "wide" folks.

What happens when/if some serious tuner parts come out for the fgx and (speculating here folks) it starts tromping all over the 104?
Do we go back to the 180mm rule?

Again...not a salty dog and this is no soapbox rant (I have/had two 104s
three 103s and a 109 at one time).I just think somebody should speak out for the folks that invested in the wider cars and maybe come up with a solution that works for all of us. I would think getting everyone on the same tire would be a better place to go from here if we want some continuity in the class. We would need either a 103 "offset" rim that fits
104/hpi tires..or some adapters to widen the rear of a 103 enough when running 104 rims.Not "spec" just same size mind you.

As they should most tracks will do what is best for their local racers.

Originally Posted by MantisWorx

"This is a scale STOCK class and will be treated as such, Your car must follow the livery (scheme) of a real 1:1 Formula team Preferably one that matches your chassis. F104/FGX=2009 and up, F103/f109 2008 and down"

i think thats a good rule "preferably"

Originally Posted by robk

Actually, it's not that expensive to convert a wide car to narrow. Mostly you need 104 tires, and the front end parts, which are not real expensive...

Check this:
http://www.rcf1blog.blogspot.com/2011/12/f1035.html

Originally Posted by bakaguyjean

Here is the knowledge.
Do you have microsoft paint and a printer? That enough to do a car that looks good on the track. If you have photoshop then you can do bodies that look just about as nice as the decals you pay for.

See the picture below,can you guess which ones are done with decals and which ones are done with a home computer and dollar store double sided tape.