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Old 05-22-2010, 01:21 PM   #1366
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Is the initial roll of the T bar loose on the pivotballs then it twists? If so, how does the car handle with just the side springs' resistance then with the T bar forces added?
I guess I could use the t-bar to add progressive side springing, but actually at the moment the t-bar never does anything under roll, only the side springs do anything. I think you've opened up yet another tuning option!
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Did you make that chassis?
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Old 05-22-2010, 02:34 PM   #1368
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yeah, it's a custom chassis with parts from other companies. T-plat and side shocks look like associated. Motor mounts, center shock and front suspension are tamiya. But I don't know where that rear axle is from.
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Old 05-22-2010, 04:13 PM   #1369
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From all of the F1 cars what had been made until now, what do you think is the best working?
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Old 05-23-2010, 12:43 PM   #1370
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Did you make that chassis?
Yes the carbon bits are home made; the front suspension is the 3racing one for the F103, the rear suspension is essentially what you'd get on an RC10L3, the pod is F103, the diff is F104, and the axle is home made. Bits of this and bits of that!
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Old 05-23-2010, 12:48 PM   #1371
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From all of the F1 cars what had been made until now, what do you think is the best working?
Depends on what rules you want to run to. The outright best will be something with 50mm wide pan-car wheels like a Corally NGX or HPI Super F1, cos there's no substitute for contact patch.

Most places I race specify a maximum of 45mm wide rear tyres, ruling those cars out. In that case, the F109 is easily the best value for money and goes well without too much effort. The Tamiya F103 is also still an excellent car but will cost a lot more to get it upto a similar spec. The F104 is a bit narrow and a bit too tricky to get working IMHO, and the HPI is more of a toy for the street (although I have got one that I'm going to run for a laugh to see what I can make it do).
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:23 AM   #1372
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From all of the F1 cars what had been made until now, what do you think is the best working?
If I had a clean slate I would just get a 109.Most tracks wont let you run "pan car" front suspension or wheels.The 109 has many of tuning options for a low price.

The 103 is another good option but some parts are getting hard to get.
Keep an eye on the Tamiya Wolf. I am running a similar setup (103 with 104 chassis plates) and it seems to be working good. Just pop on a newer body and some foam 103 tires and shes good to go.
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:25 PM   #1373
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Going with a 109, what is maybe not perfect or what would you change on this car?
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Going with a 109, what is maybe not perfect or what would you change on this car?
Do a search and you'll find an "upgrade" for the side tweak springs to change them to CRC springs and allow them to adjust the tweak. The stock 109's won't.
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I'd add the 3racing alloy castor adjuster (the front end is useless without this), and the diff and axle off the F104 (so you don't drop the thrust race onto the car park every time you change wheels). You'll also need stiffer front springs (I think they do a tuning kit with 3 pairs).
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I don't know if I want to put my Novak GTB or my Novak Cyclone into the F109. What do you think? I kinda wanted to put the GTB into my TC3. I doubt I will ever run brushless in the F109, seeings how it will be fast enough with a stock motor. I have a 10.5 brushless, I think it might be overkill for the F109
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I don't know if I want to put my Novak GTB or my Novak Cyclone into the F109. What do you think? I kinda wanted to put the GTB into my TC3. I doubt I will ever run brushless in the F109, seeings how it will be fast enough with a stock motor. I have a 10.5 brushless, I think it might be overkill for the F109
Unless you're drag racing, the 10.5 will be overkill.
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:09 PM   #1378
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The 540J motors are perfect for this class. Enough speed to keep pace with even the stock sedans. And cheap to keep costs down. If you clean and oil the motor often, you'll have no problem stretching your money's worth.
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25.5 would probably be perfect for F1, but a lot of guys in my area like the low cost nature of the 540 motors. I hate them with an undying passion I hope Tamiya's TCS goes brushless, as I think that is the push it would need.
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:23 PM   #1380
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25.5 is the way to go. Our club is adopting an all 25.5 program. VTA, F1, RCGT Lites......all 25.5. The way we look at it; long term cost is actually less, performance is at least more consistant and serviceability is better. Overall, better bang for your buck.
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