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Old 05-14-2014, 10:10 AM   #10261
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You should take a look at the SpeedPassion SP-1. It comes with all the hopups that you end up buying for the other cars for a lot less price. Handles very well out of the box.

You also need to consider how you will be using it...if just driving around in parking lots and stuff any of them are fine choices. But if you plan to race it you need to know what rules your local club is using. The F113 is a 200mm wide F1 that runs foam tires and would not be legal in most racing in the US.
I'll like the "pioneer" of F1 races in Costa Rica.
I like way too much the modded FGX.

We will be running on asphalt.
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Hi and good morning. I am about to take a look at that. I believe Speed Passion front end will fit since they both (F104 & Speed Passion's) have the same blue-print. I'll verify this.

I am running the hybrid- 3Racing FGX read and Tamiya F104 front and it is all satisfying especially the handling and realism but I find it's speed a bit slow compared to F104's (and the likes) rear system. That is why I am considering to try the belt with this.

With that chassis, I also want to achieve a more stable run with the integrated sidepod platform. I don't know if it'll have a huge effect but having said that, I think it'll be more consistent.

I am now about to research if the Speed Passion front will fit.

Thanks and cheers to all!

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To mount the SP-1 plate you have to use the 4 Tamiya servo mount holes, those do line up. You can also use the 4mm hole that lines up with the rear front wing mount for more support. You will have to cut out the section at the rear of the plate for the servo to slide forward if you use Tamiya style steering. Shim as needed.
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Old 05-14-2014, 11:33 AM   #10263
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I'll like the "pioneer" of F1 races in Costa Rica.
I like way too much the modded FGX.

We will be running on asphalt.
I have a FGX as well, it is a cool car. At first modifying it was fun, but it got to the point where it had to be heavily modified to be competitive, then it became frustrating to work on. I stopped during the middle of the last rebuild and it still sits in pieces today.
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I have a FGX as well, it is a cool car. At first modifying it was fun, but it got to the point where it had to be heavily modified to be competitive, then it became frustrating to work on. I stopped during the middle of the last rebuild and it still sits in pieces today.
Ok.

And comparing the new VBC, T.O.P and SP-1 what would be the most durable easy to work in and adjustable car?
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Ok.

And comparing the new VBC, T.O.P and SP-1 what would be the most durable easy to work in and adjustable car?
Total cost of ownership, tuneability and kit quality: the SP-1. It is great out of the box.
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Ok.

And comparing the new VBC, T.O.P and SP-1 what would be the most durable easy to work in and adjustable car?
I own the Sp-1 and the new VBC lightningF and an Exotek F1R2 and a Tamiya F104x1 and a totally crazy hopped up FGX

Top: for it to be legal for us, you have to run the F104 front end which basically makes it a F104v.2 with alittle more steering

Sp-1: very adjustable, camber and caster and width but harder to work on than the VBC, in the front end mounts and servo area

VBC: very adjustable, camber and caster, no width adjustment. I prefer the screw in servo mount to the other cars and the ease of working on the front end

FGX: cool as a shelf queen as it has the best features, inboard shocks and full IRS, not fast on non-parking lot tracks

Exotek F1R2 with the Exotek front end: very adjustable camber and caster easy to work on sweet screw in servo mount that slides for ackerman adjustment

I am currently torn between the Exotek and the VBC. The Exotek has AMAZING support, Mike and Aaron will answer any question and fast

The VBC feels the most planted and easiest to drive , for me at my tracks.
I can't seem to get the SP-1 rear end as dialed as the other cars.
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Ok.

And comparing the new VBC, T.O.P and SP-1 what would be the most durable easy to work in and adjustable car?
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Total cost of ownership, tuneability and kit quality: the SP-1. It is great out of the box.
I might be biased since I run a SP-1 But I gotta agree with John on this.

VBC - Great car but expensive
Flash $339.00
Lightning $289.00

TOP - Great car, expensive, and depending on the rules of where you race...the front suspension may not be legal and may need to be swapped to a F104 front end. $299.99

SP-1 - Great car out of the box. Best features for the money at $179.00. No hopups are needed unless you are going to run it in it's most narrow configuration. It did initially have some durability issues but the plastic has been changed and made more durable.

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I am currently torn between the Exotek and the VBC. The Exotek has AMAZING support, Mike and Aaron will answer any question and fast

The VBC feels the most planted and easiest to drive , for me at my tracks.
I can't seem to get the SP-1 rear end as dialed as the other cars.
Exotek definitely has great support! As for the SP-1...I've had the opposite problem. Mine has been too planted in the back and had quite a push. I changed the shock and ran a stiffer spring and added some reactive caster to the front and the car is really well balanced now.
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As for the SP-1...I've had the opposite problem. Mine has been too planted in the back and had quite a push. I changed the shock and ran a stiffer spring and added some reactive caster to the front and the car is really well balanced now.
post or PM me your SP-1 setup, please
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To mount the SP-1 plate you have to use the 4 Tamiya servo mount holes, those do line up. You can also use the 4mm hole that lines up with the rear front wing mount for more support. You will have to cut out the section at the rear of the plate for the servo to slide forward if you use Tamiya style steering. Shim as needed.
Noted. Thanks for these infos. Cheers.
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post or PM me your SP-1 setup, please
Pretty much the stock setup with the following changes:

Shimmed under the front suspension plate and servo mount to achieve a 4.5mm ride height.

Add one 1mm spacer under the rear of the front upper arm.

Add one 1mm spacer to the steering link ball studs on the bell crank.

CRC Encore shock with red spring and 35wt oil.

190mm width setting.

Pit Shimizu 574 front tires and 572 rear tires.

Lots of drag brake...lots!

That's all there is to it setup wise. The back end did start to get a little loose under power this past weekend but that was more due to the weather and track than to the setup. It rained on and off so the sugar water was left only in a few patches and the asphalt was too cold for those rear tires. Now that I have the car turning better I can probably start taking out some drag brake.
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Old 05-15-2014, 11:40 AM   #10273
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What is more normal to run?

17.5t or 21.5t?
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What is more normal to run?

17.5t or 21.5t?
Most drivers in the US run 21.5 indoor and outdoor. There are some with really nice outdoor tracks that can take advantage of a 17.5, but not many. All of the large events here run 21.5, blinky with a spec tire.
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Old 05-16-2014, 05:47 PM   #10275
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there would be an alternative, Fenix ​​Racing Suzu_ka
http://www.fenix-racing.com/ita/5.asp?ID_prodotto=474-7

Very Competitive F1, in continuous development, very strong, fast and easy
I use trem and I love it!
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