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Old 02-28-2014, 04:39 PM   #10081
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21.5 is a handful on asphalt. I don't know how you guys find enough grip with 18t.
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Old 02-28-2014, 04:40 PM   #10082
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With rubber the 18T it is a handfull but with foam it can be done.

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Old 02-28-2014, 05:48 PM   #10083
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Here are some pictures from round one of a series we run in Australia across all of our clubs within Victoria. Blue/Orange Alpine cars are our team. Mine is the black one. Glad to get 2nd for the day on the F1R2's first proper run.




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Old 03-02-2014, 06:14 AM   #10084
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Trying to find a ONE PIECE rear insert for the inside of a Pit tire.
Did some research and I could only find them with a set of the old Tamiya rear soft tires (by looking at the pictures on tq). I would hate to have to buy a set of tires I cant use just for the inserts...but I am getting desperte..
I know the glue together ones "should work fine"...but they are not for me.
Thanks for any help in advance.
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Old 03-02-2014, 09:58 AM   #10085
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Hi guys,

I'm looking into getting into the world of F1 r/c. I've been doing tons of research online and read so many articles on rcformulaone.com already. I was looking at getting a Tamiya F104 pro as my first car to start with. I have no proir experience in R/C so everything is new to me. Can anybody recommend a good esc, 2 channel radio and receiver and battery pack I should start with. All the articles I've read are people recommending racing components already. I'm just looking to get my kit up and going without breaking the bank yet. While I learn to drive my car in parking lots.thanks for the help fellas!
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Old 03-02-2014, 11:15 AM   #10086
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Futaba 3PL is what I started with. It worked well.
But I would look for a good used 4pl or MT4

Battery. I like my reedy batteries but I am sure this will be fine also.

You will want a lipo charger with balancer. Duratrax onyx 235 is what I started with and it served me well for over a year without any problems.

Any small ESC will work. I am using a novak edge. Hobbywing Justock is popular also.


Driving a f1 RC car can be very frustrating on untreated asphalt. I strongly suggest that you go to your local racing club and practice on the track that's been properly prepped.

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Thanks for the help man! The nearest indoor on road track to Bellingham is Noraroval. So I'll give them a call see if they got practice times. Thanks again!
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:18 PM   #10088
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What!? You are in my state!!
We have a race at magnussen community center gym this Saturday.
Come visit.

Marcos is selling his f104v2 pro.
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Old 03-02-2014, 05:03 PM   #10089
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yes marcos car is a good one. make the drive down and come play. you wont be sorry. and the nora indoor track is done for the season. offroad and dirt oval isnt for a few weeks. we still ha e 3 more race weekends for the community center. come on down!
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Old 03-04-2014, 10:08 AM   #10090
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How does one curb traction rolling on an F1? I know what to do on touring cars, but an F1...?

I'm asking because:
i raced my F104v2 this weekend, the car ran really well, i was able to reduce the traction rolling issues by putting the copper soft springs in the rear, and Tamiya Silver soft springs in the front. For the shock, i have a TRF shock, with an Orange tamiya spring, and 35wt oil. I removed the kit's side shock, and put the damper tube from the F104X1. I tried black grease, and i tried 3000wt, didn't seem to change much - but i ordered CRC 5000, 10,000 and 20000wt lub/grease.

I ran the 573 F1-medium fronts and 575 R1-soft rears from Pit Shimizu, it ran good. I also tested the 577 front F3-mediums and the 579 rear R3-softs, the car seemed to push a little more. It's a medium-high grip carpet.

What i noticed, in both cases, the rear axel would want to lift, and it would slow me down, i could hear the diff slipping. I tightend the diff a little more between each run to see if it made any difference, and i never saw one.

I played with the toe, camber and caster (i have exotek type front top arms)
Anyone have any other suggestions to try? I know i can go faster if the car would be planted in the tight turns, the rear wheel lifts and the diff spins and i can't accelerate as fast as an F104

I have posted in the F104v2 thread, and i got great advice, but any other suggestions i can try? i'll be going to track to practice and test out different ideas to see.
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Old 03-04-2014, 01:56 PM   #10091
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#1 tip glue the front tires sidewalls!!

Reduce camber

Reduce caster if your front end is capable

Since it sounds like you run open tire try a stiffer front insert that reduces airgap as well

Make sure you have a lot of front droop so the car can roll within its suspension travel

Move your battery as far forward as it will go

You might also try thicker greases. I routinely use 100k - 125k

Are your side springs floating or touching or preloaded? That is a big difference as well



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How does one curb traction rolling on an F1? I know what to do on touring cars, but an F1...?

I'm asking because:
i raced my F104v2 this weekend, the car ran really well, i was able to reduce the traction rolling issues by putting the copper soft springs in the rear, and Tamiya Silver soft springs in the front. For the shock, i have a TRF shock, with an Orange tamiya spring, and 35wt oil. I removed the kit's side shock, and put the damper tube from the F104X1. I tried black grease, and i tried 3000wt, didn't seem to change much - but i ordered CRC 5000, 10,000 and 20000wt lub/grease.

I ran the 573 F1-medium fronts and 575 R1-soft rears from Pit Shimizu, it ran good. I also tested the 577 front F3-mediums and the 579 rear R3-softs, the car seemed to push a little more. It's a medium-high grip carpet.

What i noticed, in both cases, the rear axel would want to lift, and it would slow me down, i could hear the diff slipping. I tightend the diff a little more between each run to see if it made any difference, and i never saw one.

I played with the toe, camber and caster (i have exotek type front top arms)
Anyone have any other suggestions to try? I know i can go faster if the car would be planted in the tight turns, the rear wheel lifts and the diff spins and i can't accelerate as fast as an F104

I have posted in the F104v2 thread, and i got great advice, but any other suggestions i can try? i'll be going to track to practice and test out different ideas to see.
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Old 03-04-2014, 02:19 PM   #10092
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#1 tip glue the front tires sidewalls!!

Reduce camber

Reduce caster if your front end is capable

Since it sounds like you run open tire try a stiffer front insert that reduces airgap as well

Make sure you have a lot of front droop so the car can roll within its suspension travel

Move your battery as far forward as it will go

You might also try thicker greases. I routinely use 100k - 125k

Are your side springs floating or touching or preloaded? That is a big difference as well
ok i have a question. how does one set the droop on a f1 front suspension? splain dis to me pleze.
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Old 03-04-2014, 02:40 PM   #10093
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Under the top A arm. Place a screw with spacer(s) in the bottom arm and adjust for droop by lifting and measuring how much up lift you have just before the wheels come off the surface.
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:04 PM   #10094
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ok thats what that screw is on my f104. i kinda thought thats what those were for. i have them set evenly and i get about 2-3 mm of chassis rise before the tires come off my board. so i guess im good.
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Old 03-05-2014, 06:47 AM   #10095
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New Item for front ride height



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