1/10 R/C F1's...Pics, Discussions, Whatever...
#9751
Hi Hummer Man,
InspGadgt is spot on - you have a choice on how to structure your local F1 class.
In most circumstances the wider F1 cars on foams are faster than narrow F1s on rubber. Both can be tricky to set up and drive, so if you get the sweet spot with a rubber car then it will fly.
The F103 or F104W are fine choices for wide foam. I'd also add the 3Racing F109 which was cheap and forgiving to drive, and some secondhand bargains are now out there.
Whatever you decide have fun racing your F1s
InspGadgt is spot on - you have a choice on how to structure your local F1 class.
In most circumstances the wider F1 cars on foams are faster than narrow F1s on rubber. Both can be tricky to set up and drive, so if you get the sweet spot with a rubber car then it will fly.
The F103 or F104W are fine choices for wide foam. I'd also add the 3Racing F109 which was cheap and forgiving to drive, and some secondhand bargains are now out there.
Whatever you decide have fun racing your F1s
#9752
Tech Champion
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Locally we've adopted the UF1 standards for 190mm width, F104 rubber tires, 21.5 motor and approved Blinky ESC. An F103 with F104 rear tires/wheels and an F104 front end meets the width requirement. The F103 and F104 rear axle assembly are the same width. The rear wheel offset and tire width are what make the car so wide in back. The 104 front end just bolts right in. You will need a new front wing though as the F104 pushes the wheels further forward and they will rub on the wing. You will need F104 front end: wheel bearings, shorter steering linkage, king pins, ball studs and front arm set. The front axles and uprights from the F103 are the same. It is a slightly shorter wheelbase car when completed. If you want a narrow car on the cheap, convert an old F103.
#9753
Tech Champion
Most clubs have accepted the UF1 standards or a modified version of them in the US. Outside of the US is where you will more often see the 200mm wide cars with foam tires. Our club allows 180mm, 190mm, and 200mm but the tires must be rubber. The rubber tires made for the F103 just are not as grippy as those made for the F104 so the wide cars are at a disadvantage. While our club allows a variety of sizes...we strongly encourage the UF1 standards.
#9754
The Eagle has landed....
actually, it should be landing fairly soon. Here's something that might excite a few of you...
http://www.rctech.net/forum/12795217-post444.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/12795217-post444.html
#9755
Tech Fanatic
actually, it should be landing fairly soon. Here's something that might excite a few of you...
http://www.rctech.net/forum/12795217-post444.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/12795217-post444.html
#9756
Now we're talking.
#9757
Tech Elite
iTrader: (11)
Most clubs have accepted the UF1 standards or a modified version of them in the US. Outside of the US is where you will more often see the 200mm wide cars with foam tires. Our club allows 180mm, 190mm, and 200mm but the tires must be rubber. The rubber tires made for the F103 just are not as grippy as those made for the F104 so the wide cars are at a disadvantage. While our club allows a variety of sizes...we strongly encourage the UF1 standards.
This season, Sean brought back a 200mm wide F1 foam tire class with 17.5 blinky. Two words.....insane fun !
Panda
#9758
Tech Champion
Back in the 103 days we ran Rides and they were pretty good but still didn't compare to how the 104s feel today. Our problem with the Shimizus isn't a push but no rear grip on the 103.
#9759
Tech Champion
actually, it should be landing fairly soon. Here's something that might excite a few of you...
http://www.rctech.net/forum/12795217-post444.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/12795217-post444.html
#9761
What I know from World GT & 12th pan car classes is more tyre stagger slows down rotation in corners, and less increases rotation. Taken to its extreme with larger tyres then in theory the car would over rotate and be hard to drive.
I say in theory as I have run larger foams on the front of an F109 and didn't notice as much difference as I would have with a WGT or 12th.
If you run the same make of F1 rubber tyre front and rear then I wouldn't get hung up on this.
Hope that helps
Mark
#9762
Stagger
Ideally the rears should be larger that the front tyres, or the same size. There difference between the two is known as stagger.
What I know from World GT & 12th pan car classes is more tyre stagger slows down rotation in corners, and less increases rotation. Taken to its extreme with larger tyres then in theory the car would over rotate and be hard to drive.
I say in theory as I have run larger foams on the front of an F109 and didn't notice as much difference as I would have with a WGT or 12th.
If you run the same make of F1 rubber tyre front and rear then I wouldn't get hung up on this.
Hope that helps
Mark
What I know from World GT & 12th pan car classes is more tyre stagger slows down rotation in corners, and less increases rotation. Taken to its extreme with larger tyres then in theory the car would over rotate and be hard to drive.
I say in theory as I have run larger foams on the front of an F109 and didn't notice as much difference as I would have with a WGT or 12th.
If you run the same make of F1 rubber tyre front and rear then I wouldn't get hung up on this.
Hope that helps
Mark
#9763
Stagger in the US is a right to left difference in tire diameter/circumference. commonly used in oval racing but sometimes used in road racing when there are more or more important turns in one direction than the other. I have never heard of "stagger" in reference to front/rear differences. (But that doesn't necessarily mean it cannot be...)
To be honest it doesn't really matter what you call it
#9764
Tech Elite
iTrader: (10)
Stagger in the US is a right to left difference in tire diameter/circumference. commonly used in oval racing but sometimes used in road racing when there are more or more important turns in one direction than the other. I have never heard of "stagger" in reference to front/rear differences. (But that doesn't necessarily mean it cannot be...)
In the US then yes it is a term I relate to oval racing for the difference in right to left hand side tyre sizes. I picked it up from a road UK meeting for the difference in front to read tyre sizes. I celebrate our diversity
To be honest it doesn't really matter what you call it
To be honest it doesn't really matter what you call it
#9765
Hi guys, what color for Sauber C32?