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Old 11-18-2013, 08:49 AM   #9691
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I finished my take on the Jordan 191 last night. It's not up to the standards of the hand painted Red Bull, but I think it turned out pretty good. I painted and clear coated the wings, but I'm sure they'll still get destroyed the first time I clip a pipe.

I was never a big Schumacher fan, so Kimi got the nod for the Jordan drive.
Csaari77, How did you paint your wings on that 191?
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Csaari77, How did you paint your wings on that 191?
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I primed them with Tamiya fine white primer and then sprayed them with the same Faskolor paints that I used on the body. After that I applied 3 coats of lacquer clear coat. I did the same for the winglets, main plain on the rear wing, and the mirrors. Hopefully it will hold up well with the clear coat.
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:56 AM   #9693
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Hi all ....

Quick question for you knowledgable painters out there .....

What paint most closely resembles the red in Redbulls F1 Red ..... rattlecan that is?

Thanks for your help.

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Danish F1 race from last weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_qabm6Owhs
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I noticed that you referred to his "gyro stopped working". I've noticed that there has been some talk concerning gyros in rc car racing. Would someone please explain that to me. I thought they were only for drift cars, but apparently they are used in racing too. Are they worth getting? My group races F1 cars on less than perfect parking lot tracks where traction is difficult to come by...would a gyro help? If so, what brand to buy and how much are they?
We were using gyros in F1s 20 years ago, until they were banned as everyone ended up having them. They make the cars much more stable as it automatically counter steers when the rear end starts sliding. While they are banned in most sanctioned racing around the world, FEMCA still allows them in some F1 classes.

If the chassis starts to spin when either turning into a corner or when wheels spin coming out of the corner, depending on how you have set up the gyro it will try to correct the steering so will help keep it on line. It means you can run a softer front end for more steering grip for faster cornering without worrying about the car spinning out as easily. A gyro will still let the car spin out though, it doesn't instantly solve handling problems. Here's a good demonstration http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90dQlBmfV2I

There are a wide range of available gyros, most cheap heli gyros will do the job if you want to experiment with one, you can pick up cheap ones for $10-15 to experiment with and see if they make a difference. Car gyros are usually a heli gyro repackaged as a car specific item, usually at double the price of the heli versions. If you want to invest in a decent one, the HPI D-Box is just a rebadged Futaba G190 heli gyro,but if you are feeling rich there is the Tamiya Active Steering Assist at $148!
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I hate the idea of "driver aids", but that is cool. Thanks for sharing.
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I hate the idea of "driver aids", but that is cool. Thanks for sharing.
All of Asia runs gyro's in F1's. Most people consider a gyro a "driver's aid" but the same can be said for what Pit Shimizu tires did for F1 racing. Suddenly you have a tire that makes the car grip better, not spin out as easily, more driveable which equals more fun and more racers. Just sayin......

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TAMIYA TGU-01 Active Steering Assist is only $72USD. Not $148. I rather change my set up and/or adjust my driving style instead of using the assist. But it's cool stuff.
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Hi all ....

Quick question for you knowledgable painters out there .....

What paint most closely resembles the red in Redbulls F1 Red ..... rattlecan that is?

Thanks for your help.

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@British Menace,

I don't know the answer to that question, but I'd bet that BPShadow does. He is on RCTech. You might want to PM him.
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Haha i think i need this and collision detection auto-drag-brake.
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Quick question for you knowledgable painters out there .....

What paint most closely resembles the red in Redbulls F1 Red ..... rattlecan that is?

Thanks for your help.

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Depends on which brand paint you can buy. Try Tamiya PS-2 Red or Pactra Racing Red.
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Thanks. I'll give it a try.

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We were using gyros in F1s 20 years ago, until they were banned as everyone ended up having them. They make the cars much more stable as it automatically counter steers when the rear end starts sliding. While they are banned in most sanctioned racing around the world, FEMCA still allows them in some F1 classes.

If the chassis starts to spin when either turning into a corner or when wheels spin coming out of the corner, depending on how you have set up the gyro it will try to correct the steering so will help keep it on line. It means you can run a softer front end for more steering grip for faster cornering without worrying about the car spinning out as easily. A gyro will still let the car spin out though, it doesn't instantly solve handling problems. Here's a good demonstration http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90dQlBmfV2I

There are a wide range of available gyros, most cheap heli gyros will do the job if you want to experiment with one, you can pick up cheap ones for $10-15 to experiment with and see if they make a difference. Car gyros are usually a heli gyro repackaged as a car specific item, usually at double the price of the heli versions. If you want to invest in a decent one, the HPI D-Box is just a rebadged Futaba G190 heli gyro,but if you are feeling rich there is the Tamiya Active Steering Assist at $148!

Thank you so much for the help with this. We have a small club that will be racing both F1 cars and the Speed Passion LM1 Le Mans cars on less than perfect parking lots which offer sketchy traction at best! The gyro idea sounds to me like it would make it a bit easier to drive the cars, especially for beginners, which in turn should make it more fun! I intend to give it a try.
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Ok guys. Pretty new to F1 but working on growing the class locally.

I have an F104W GP which runs good. No real complaints..

I'm wondering about the front end. I have access to a ton of parts from F104v2's so wondering what are the benefits of swapping front ends, to a narrower F104v2 from the older / wider F103/4 style? Thinking about performance and durability.

(Sorry if this has been asked before)
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