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Old 04-16-2013, 03:12 PM   #7786
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571 or 574 for front. 572 for rear...
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571 or 574 for front. 572 for rear...
Thanks, I went back and edited my post. Sorry for the mix up.
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Sorry, I was busy doing preparations for our club championship. The weather in Germany was sunny for the first time last sunday so I concentrated on my TC setup. Next week is our first race. After that I will try out my F160 and F104V2 and tell you how it was.

Looking forward to reading your review of your VF1 car, wtcc.

I wonder when we are going to see what "package deal" Brad at F1 Paintlab is going to offer with regards to the VF1 cars? I've been holding off from ordering anything till I see what package he comes up with.
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Anything new going on with the VF1 cars? Haven't seen any posts lately from Ned or from wtcc. Anyone done any driving tests of these cars yet?
I'm still around! Got to take pics of the Tech front end with the chrome monokote on it. Not too bad. I have it angled up about 4mm overall but since it comes up from the middle of the chassis instead of the nearer the edge of the body, it doesn't look steep enough. Chrome looks good but it's hard to get it to stick and stretch. Maybe regular monokote?
Redid the intakes too flared brass tubing and I'm looking for some screening to put over the top.
Company probably in town this weekend likely means no track test yet. On-road all but dead here in upsate SC. May have to go a couple of hours over below Charlotte, but track was pretty rough last I saw it.....
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Dang... it is a lot of work to paint three colors. But Perez sauber is coming together.






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Old 04-17-2013, 01:09 AM   #7791
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Anything new going on with the VF1 cars? Haven't seen any posts lately from Ned or from wtcc. Anyone done any driving tests of these cars yet?

I drove the prototype body a few months back. It was strictly made to fit he f104W (Lotus 79 or Wolf WR-1 kits) With the kit tires on an unprepped surface you had to tiptoe around the track. I couldn't even go top speed down the straight with the 21.5 motor. I didn't have time to try anything else other than saucing the kit tires which gave them a lot more grip and made the car at least driveable.

Since then I've amassed a wide selection of F1 tires that I intend to test: HPI Vintage tires, Vf1 spec (Tamiya) tires, and F103 foams and F103 rubber.
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I drove the prototype body a few months back. It was strictly made to fit he f104W (Lotus 79 or Wolf WR-1 kits) With the kit tires on an unprepped surface you had to tiptoe around the track. I couldn't even go top speed down the straight with the 21.5 motor. I didn't have time to try anything else other than saucing the kit tires which gave them a lot more grip and made the car at least driveable.

Since then I've amassed a wide selection of F1 tires that I intend to test: HPI Vintage tires, Vf1 spec (Tamiya) tires, and F103 foams and F103 rubber.
Manny, are you using a 2S lipo? My small group is going to use a 1S lipo with the 21.5 brushless; we think it will make for a more driveable car. That's the combo we were using on our WGT cars previously, and it worked quite well.

Also, where are you placing the battery?, in front of or behind the esc and receiver?
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Dang... it is a lot of work to paint three colors. But Perez sauber is coming together.





How did you paint it? was a spray can job or brush?
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I bought spray cans.
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Manny, are you using a 2S lipo? My small group is going to use a 1S lipo with the 21.5 brushless; we think it will make for a more driveable car. That's the combo we were using on our WGT cars previously, and it worked quite well.

Also, where are you placing the battery?, in front of or behind the esc and receiver?
The 2s shorty Lipo is behind the esc/rx. At one point I was thinking about using a smaller 2s battery made for 1/16th scale cars.

A 1s battery will certainly make it more drivable....
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A big problem was just those F104W rear tires...the stock ones have little to no grip. It did get better once Manny put some sauce on the rear tires but was still a hand full to drive.
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A big problem was just those F104W rear tires...the stock ones have little to no grip. It did get better once Manny put some sauce on the rear tires but was still a hand full to drive.

That makes perfect sense, and is why I recommend that if you want to use a 21.5 brushless motor, you should go with the 1S lipo to make it more enjoyable to drive and race. If you wish to use a 2S "shorty" pack, then I recommend you switch to the 25.5 brushless motor. Having said that, I firmly believe that the 21.5 with the 1S lipo is THE way to go. I'm also determined to go Ned's route and use the HPI VTA tires, 31mm rears and 26mm fronts. I think they will work pretty well, and offer more scale realism than modern slick F1 tires.
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That makes perfect sense, and is why I recommend that if you want to use a 21.5 brushless motor, you should go with the 1S lipo to make it more enjoyable to drive and race. If you wish to use a 2S "shorty" pack, then I recommend you switch to the 25.5 brushless motor. Having said that, I firmly believe that the 21.5 with the 1S lipo is THE way to go. I'm also determined to go Ned's route and use the HPI VTA tires, 31mm rears and 26mm fronts. I think they will work pretty well, and offer more scale realism than modern slick F1 tires.
+1 1S is a perfect idea
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I really think the body looks best with the F104W suspension and tires...just wish the tires had better grip.
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I really think the body looks best with the F104W suspension and tires...just wish the tires had better grip.
I agree about the F104W suspension, but not the tires. Since when did late 60's F1 cars have big fat slick tires?!! They didn't come along till the 70's.
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