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Old 03-13-2013, 08:25 AM   #7246
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43 pictures of the new Speed passion SP-1 F1 on rcf1.fr (in french sorry)
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Check out this very cool 1960's F1 body Manny has come up with...
The site is mostly about a new class in SoCal that will run this body but there are pics and info on how to order...

http://vf1club.com/index.html
I ordered mine yesterday. It will become a Walker Lotus 49B driven by Jo Siffert at the GP in Great Britain 1968.

http://www.exoto.com/s/1/productdeta...productid=1065
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:06 AM   #7248
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very nice , can't wait to see the pics
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Hope you guys can help me with this:
First time running my used F104 Pro on carpet, rubber tires, 21.5 blinky.
The car has a traction roll problem coming off a high speed straight to a tight right hand hairpin. The car will traction roll mid corner off throttle or on. The only way i can make the corner is to brake way early and slight power on entering the corner all the way through. If i kept the same corner speed as the competition I would roll for sure.
Everywhere else on the track mostly on throttle the car hooks up, steers and is generally very good. My set up is 5mm ride height rear, 7mm ride height front, 3mm front droop (uptravel), -1 degree front camber, 1100g total weight with 3800 2s lipo positioned in front of esc in chassis.
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Hope you guys can help me with this:
First time running my used F104 Pro on carpet, rubber tires, 21.5 blinky.
The car has a traction roll problem coming off a high speed straight to a tight right hand hairpin. The car will traction roll mid corner off throttle or on. The only way i can make the corner is to brake way early and slight power on entering the corner all the way through. If i kept the same corner speed as the competition I would roll for sure.
Everywhere else on the track mostly on throttle the car hooks up, steers and is generally very good. My set up is 5mm ride height rear, 7mm ride height front, 3mm front droop (uptravel), -1 degree front camber, 1100g total weight with 3800 2s lipo positioned in front of esc in chassis.
What tires? Center shock info? Anything on the damper post/disc's?
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:23 AM   #7251
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Kit (black T bar) shock & damper post built to tamiya kit instructions.
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Latest update of my FGX/F104 F1 car built.

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I ordered mine yesterday. It will become a Walker Lotus 49B driven by Jo Siffert at the GP in Great Britain 1968.

http://www.exoto.com/s/1/productdeta...productid=1065
Cool! I made a Siffert Helmet for my wife when we did some skiing in Switzerland. You wouldn't believe how many "Eidgenossen" still remember him!

I ordered one body too (I just couldn't resist). Nevertheless it will become the '67 Lotus of Jim Clark:



You can see more epic pictures of this beauty here:
http://www.britishspeed.com/forum/sh...Numbers/page11
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Hope you guys can help me with this:
First time running my used F104 Pro on carpet, rubber tires, 21.5 blinky.
The car has a traction roll problem coming off a high speed straight to a tight right hand hairpin. The car will traction roll mid corner off throttle or on. The only way i can make the corner is to brake way early and slight power on entering the corner all the way through. If i kept the same corner speed as the competition I would roll for sure.
Everywhere else on the track mostly on throttle the car hooks up, steers and is generally very good. My set up is 5mm ride height rear, 7mm ride height front, 3mm front droop (uptravel), -1 degree front camber, 1100g total weight with 3800 2s lipo positioned in front of esc in chassis.
I think the biggest issue in your set up is ride height. Get that thing down to 4mm or less front and back. Also make sure your t bar is nice and loose so the chassis can roll instead of making the car traction roll.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:37 AM   #7255
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My rear ride height is as low as I can get it with pardus tires and the highest tamiya bearing block. Is there any way to go lower in the rear?
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My rear ride height is as low as I can get it with pardus tires and the highest tamiya bearing block. Is there any way to go lower in the rear?
the front might be a lower than the rear. 4mm front - 4.5mm rear. for the rear , you can use the excentric S2 piece to make the axle higher. if it's not enough you can put shims under the motor mount , but i've never needed this on a f104
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Thanks guys. I will follow up with results next week.
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Thanks guys. I will follow up with results next week.
You racing in Toledo?
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Yes. I was one of the silver Vodafones in the B main. I usually run 17.5 sedan but find I am having more fun in F1. A good group of racers it seems.
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Yes. I was one of the silver Vodafones in the B main. I usually run 17.5 sedan but find I am having more fun in F1. A good group of racers it seems.
Thanks, we are proud of our F1 class and the drivers we have participating in it. We are still about 50-60% T-bar cars so feel free to stop over and ask anyone about our setups. I drove the Ferrari in your qualifier (Nick by the way) I don’t remember which generation Pardus tires you have but it seems they all need gluing to keep from traction rolling once the grip levels come up on the track. Do you have a push-roll or does it turn ok just have to watch weight transfer? Try to soften up the whole rear end, move the batter forward and try front tires parallel or with slight toe in, dope only inside 1/3.

They drive 100% different then TC, it will take some getting used too. Your catching the tail end of the season for us but you’ll get the setup down soon.

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