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Old 12-05-2012, 11:51 PM   #6376
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This is lovely, anyone tested one yet?
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:28 AM   #6377
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I think the most simple thing to do with this chassis is to switch the front end from the F103 type to the F104 type. I searched the Internet, but wasn't able to find what I was looking for. Do any of you have a list of the parts I'd need to buy to create the F104 front end? I'd like to just order them all at once and make the conversion.
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I honestly dont think you can reuse many if any parts from the front end, maybe the front uprights but for $4 i'd buy new.

Here is the F104 manual:

http://www.tamiyausa.com/pdf/manuals/58447ml.pdf

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Old 12-06-2012, 10:33 AM   #6379
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Do any of you have a list of the parts I'd need to buy to create the F104 front end? I'd like to just order them all at once and make the conversion.
Not sure what parts do You have from previous builds but basically:

RC F104 F Parts - Suspension Arm/Front Item #51381
RC F104 Titan Coated King Pin Item #54160 (or 58431 F104 3x33,4mm stainless shaft)
RC F104 D Parts Item #51380 (You need F104 plastic servo holder from this part)
3x35mm Turnbuckle (shorter than F103 turnbuckle, not sure what ballcups You have)
Tamiya (53599) 5mm Alum Ball Nut (4pcs. for attaching upper arms)
2pcs. 3x35 FH screw, 2pcs. 3x12 BH screw, 2pcs. 3x10 BH screw for droop setting, 4pcs. 2mm C-ring
RC F104 Low Friction Sus Ball - Set Item #54161 (optional)

Some of these parts You could already have so compare F104 pdf manual and Your part box...
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The steering knuckles/axles and the 2 screws that bolt the front end to the chassis are the only parts that carry over. Oh and the springs and e clips.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:23 PM   #6381
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Check out the end of this video. I'd like to drive that.....

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FiLoANg6nNY
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The steering knuckles/axles and the 2 screws that bolt the front end to the chassis are the only parts that carry over. Oh and the springs and e clips.

the 2 4mm screws that hold the front end are longer on the F104... might not be able to use the ones that come with the F103 front end.
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I think the most simple thing to do with this chassis is to switch the front end from the F103 type to the F104 type. I searched the Internet, but wasn't able to find what I was looking for. Do any of you have a list of the parts I'd need to buy to create the F104 front end? I'd like to just order them all at once and make the conversion.
You can use the existing F103 front end. There are two support bosses that Tamiya thoughtfully provided near the existing kingpin holes on the suspension arms to help you. Cut off the bosses, remove the material containing the old kingpin holes, and drill or ream the holes where the bosses were to accept the 3mm kingpins. (I drilled the holes just undersize, then used an old shock shaft, with a slot cut in it with a Dremel cutoff wheel, as a reamer.) The width of the car will be almost perfect.

Disadvantages of doing this are that the arms will not be quite as strong since the support bosses are no longer present; the suspension travel is slightly reduced; and you're stuck with zero degrees caster. But it will do to get you running, while you figure out what else you want to do.

I have two front ends, one the standard F103, and the other the narrowed F103, each with the proper length tie rods on them, so I can swap them quickly.
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Posted this in the 104Pro thread, but figured I'd post here too since this one gets more traffic

How are you guys modifying the F104 pro to accept full size lipos? I just got my kit built, and my reedy 5000mah lipos dont fit unless I remove the side pods for the esc/rx (batt too wide). What I was planning on doing was making a plate that goes under the battery and still hangs off the sides like the pods to hold the esc/rx (plate sits perpendicular to chassis). I have about 2.5 mm clearance between the battery and top plate, hopefully I can find something that fits. Was just going to double side tape the plate to the chassis. Should I run the battery forward or rear?

Other ideas? Hopefully I can get something worked out before raceday sat.
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Thanks for your help and suggestions guys on the F104 front end. I very much appreciate it and will get some parts on order this weekend.

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Posted this in the 104Pro thread, but figured I'd post here too since this one gets more traffic

How are you guys modifying the F104 pro to accept full size lipos? I just got my kit built, and my reedy 5000mah lipos dont fit unless I remove the side pods for the esc/rx (batt too wide). What I was planning on doing was making a plate that goes under the battery and still hangs off the sides like the pods to hold the esc/rx (plate sits perpendicular to chassis). I have about 2.5 mm clearance between the battery and top plate, hopefully I can find something that fits. Was just going to double side tape the plate to the chassis. Should I run the battery forward or rear?

Other ideas? Hopefully I can get something worked out before raceday sat.
You can always get some .040 lexan or similar and make some wings that you can servo tape to the chassis..basically extensions
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I'm thinking of doing up a Marussia paint scheme using your decals that I'm getting from TQ. Any suggestion as to how to mask the body? Should I try liquid mask or attempt green painter's tape to mark off the sections? Your help appreciated!

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Old 12-07-2012, 04:55 PM   #6388
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If I could only buy one set of rubber tires, which way should I go?
1. Tamiya soft fronts, Tamiya hard rears
2. Shimizu racing, .571 and .572
3. F1paintlab (IIC spec tire)?
4. Ride (high grip)
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Thx for the quick reply
Another question, how about inserts?
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