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Old 08-24-2012, 03:59 AM   #5701
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I will test my F103 Rapide tomorrow with Xceeds. Which compounds do you have? Someone tell me Xceed fronts make the car to oversteer, donīt know personally have to test this.
OK, let us know how it works. I have asphalt type soft rears and medium fronts. You're right that some guys use outdoors (i think) premounted Tamiyas, don't know what type...
Did You have any problems with mounting front tires like slowmotion36 mentioned?
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There is a little movement in the front wheels but not too much, anyway i will install the black shims that come with TRG carbon knuckles if this is really needed.

I noticed that if you install the front F103 bearing vey deep into the wheel thereīs more movement, if you donīt do this so deeply thereīs not so much movement at the front wheels
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Old 08-24-2012, 04:25 AM   #5703
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@Rosokam....Use the xceed hard front and medium or soft at the rear.
This will give you a good starting point.

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@Rosokam....Use the xceed hard front and medium or soft at the rear.
This will give you a good starting point.

regards Roy

Thanks for the tip, iīm going to start with hard fronts and soft rears
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YW
If you like a lot of steer that is the combo for not having it.
This combo is good for slippery track

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If you like a lot of steer that is the combo for not having it.
This combo is good for slippery track

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Thatīs the case with my local track very dusty and slippery.
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We ran 575/577 in Toledo
I mounted up a 571/572 combo and ran them at MSI , although I hear that the 571/575 combination gives great grip and balance on carpet.
Lon and Ted have been testing the Pardus tires down there, and we ran them at the ROAR regional as the spec tire at the Gate. With them costing $25 for a set of 4 rims,tires,inserts they are a good cost effective alternative to the PITS
I meant to say 75's but I was just asking a general question about what the new Tamiya tires where closest too.
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I have a Muchmore CTW-W tire warmer for the Xray T3 2012 touring car, as I'm close to finishing my F104 v2 Pro now I was wanting to give the Pit Shimizu tires the same treatment.

This is the tire warmer system:


They have told me that they are making a cup set for the F1 tires, but that could be a while off.

I also came across this system, using wrap around style tire warmers:
G.T. Power (#GTP-W) IC Controlled Tire Warmers


Has anyone taken the tire warmers off this GT power system and plugged them into a Muchmore CTX-W system?

If that doesn't work, are there other cups/wrap arounds to suit the F1 tires using a Muchmore CTW-W?

I don't want to buy the GTP just for F1....I just want 1 tire warming setup on my pit table.
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I have both systems for my tc and F1. And confirm the the cups are compatable.
But when using both cars on club days you need both due to the tight turnaround.
Also the gt electrical system is identical to the much more one and very good value for the price

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I have both systems for my tc and F1. And confirm the the cups are compatable.
But when using both cars on club days you need both due to the tight turnaround.
Also the gt electrical system is identical to the much more one and very good value for the price

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Hopefully last issue related to F1 car..
Ok, I also have Hudy setup system for the touring car.
Due to the differences in wheel hub type, I can't fit the aluminium wheels if I wanted to and they are different diameter anyway.
I can use my ride height gauges, that's about it.
I do have the quick camber tool as well.

What systems/setup gear are people using to measure everything on their F1 cars?

To record accurate setup on the sheets for this car is vital, so I need best way to measure all angles etc for the F104 v2.
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What systems/setup gear are people using to measure everything on their F1 cars?

To record accurate setup on the sheets for this car is vital, so I need best way to measure all angles etc for the F104 v2.
Not much point in a setup system for most F1s, there's not much of the geometry that can be changed. The F104v2 has fixed rear links and fixed upper arms, camber is set by replacing the upper link mount. I measure toe in by measuring the steering link lengths using a caliper to check they are equal, if you want to go by actual number of degrees then place your car on your setup board, find a line running across the board near the front wheels and use a camber gauge on its side to measure the angle between this line and the front wheels.

What is much more important than setup gauges for any pan car is a tweak board as it is so much quicker than the coin drop method to check tweak.
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yep lots of people still use the chassis lift method to check tweak,

personally i use one of these for both touring car and F1, more so for the F1.
And a ruler for front toe.

http://www.hudy.net/xhudy/news/newsd...5426dab1eb3a9a

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I have tested my F103 Rapide with the Xceeds 35 F/ 25 R shore and 40/25. Much better for me this last one. With 35/25 the car tends to oversteering and slip entering the corners with 40/25 this effect disappears.

I have not noticed problems with the Xceeds fronts little movement and no shims were needed at all.
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