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Old 10-25-2011, 08:51 AM   #3181
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Alloy in blue or black?
Price and what parts are involved?

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Only blue for now, the conversion kit gives you everything you need to build an X1 except for the counterweight and the front camber adjuster.
Price would be around $53+shipping costs. Will have them in the online store shortly
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I second everyone mentioned. And would love to help in Texas, but I'm pretty new to the scene. We are hashing out some local rules.

I have a question about the 180mm v 200mm debate. The f103 types are faster, but why exactly? And is there an equalizer like rubber tires? I heard that rubber tires make it a moot point, but haven't seen first hand any testing. We run them together, on foams it is no contest, rubber seemed to tighten it up.
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Old 10-25-2011, 11:34 AM   #3183
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OK, slicks...
I'm not a rubber tire person so 20R tire what is that?
20R is the rubber compound
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20 degree celcius, lower number, higher traction
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I second everyone mentioned. And would love to help in Texas, but I'm pretty new to the scene. We are hashing out some local rules.

I have a question about the 180mm v 200mm debate. The f103 types are faster, but why exactly? And is there an equalizer like rubber tires? I heard that rubber tires make it a moot point, but haven't seen first hand any testing. We run them together, on foams it is no contest, rubber seemed to tighten it up.
The 103 chassis does have an advantage over the 104 when it comes to lap times... Why ? If I had to guess, it would have to do with weight transfer on the turns because of the 103 battery position... Rubber tires do not equalize the situation totally... Obviously a better driver in a 104 will beat a lesser driver in a 103, but straight across the 103 has an advantage....

UF1 has just revised the width rules to 190mm for F1 and 200mm for the Le Mans class.. This still separates the higher performing 103 in it's own class but now allows the new Sakura FGX 190mm to compete...
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103 --shorter and wider=turns harder, more corner speed
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The 103 chassis does have an advantage over the 104 when it comes to lap times... Why ? If I had to guess, it would have to do with weight transfer on the turns because of the 103 battery position... Rubber tires do not equalize the situation totally... Obviously a better driver in a 104 will beat a lesser driver in a 103, but straight across the 103 has an advantage....

UF1 has just revised the width rules to 190mm for F1 and 200mm for the Le Mans class.. This still separates the higher performing 103 in it's own class but now allows the new Sakura FGX 190mm to compete...
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103 --shorter and wider=turns harder, more corner speed
The F-103 has much lower profile rubber tires, and that can also make a big difference on high bite carpet.
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What are the odds of having an F1 class at the 2012 carpet nationals?
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Thanks, i got that, I was more thinking of brandname of the tire and articlenumber, so that I can point to good tires for rain in the rules
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What are the odds of having an F1 class at the 2012 carpet nationals?
There are rules in the rulebook
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We re pretty excited to learn that the Nats will be at our home track. Our F1 class is in its infancy, but is drawing interest. A class at the Nats would probably put it over the top. Of course I'm biased. we have about 6 to 8 F1 cars already.
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The 103 chassis does have an advantage over the 104 when it comes to lap times... Why ? If I had to guess, it would have to do with weight transfer on the turns because of the 103 battery position... Rubber tires do not equalize the situation totally... Obviously a better driver in a 104 will beat a lesser driver in a 103, but straight across the 103 has an advantage....

UF1 has just revised the width rules to 190mm for F1 and 200mm for the Le Mans class.. This still separates the higher performing 103 in it's own class but now allows the new Sakura FGX 190mm to compete...
I will agree with that and add that the 103 turns around its center very well, in laymans terms it rotates well allowing it to change direction very quickly. I wouldnt say that it is one factor or another, I think overall the 103 is just a good package.
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Would the pan car based F1 cars be able to participate in the UF1 Lemans class ???
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Cheap plug for anyone looking for a good F103

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Old 10-26-2011, 07:55 AM   #3195
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Would the pan car based F1 cars be able to participate in the UF1 Lemans class ???
If it can pass these rules then yes...
http://uf1series.com/rules.html

You have to remember that 6 of the 8 tracks the UF1 Series visits are medium traction asphalt ... pan car based chassis have zero advantage under these conditions with open motors and rubber tires as far as I have seen...

Also you are not allowed to use high down-force pan car bodies...

Someone asked a few months back if they could design there own chassis for this class... again, as long as it fits these rules, then go for it... If it turns out someone creates or discovers some exotic magical chassis that dominates the field, then good for you, but the rules will then have to be adjusted the following year
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