The future of 1/12 scale
11-26-2008, 09:25 AM
#497
I think he said it was about 122 grams.
We arent corporate sponsored teams.
Most of us have kids to fees and real cars to take care of . let alone a home and griceries to buy. We all dont live at home with mommy you know!
Rubber tires on carpet .. good fun and not too pricy to keep a car running. I love it! And im NOT afraid of hp .. just that id rather race and ghave to qualify for the "A" instead of just ending up in it 'cause theres not enough ppl to fill a few heats. Thats a big issue , theres just too many different types of cars to run and unless you can afford 2 or 3 classes . then theres time limitations like race martial race martial.. god forbid you would actually have to work on the car . Toy cars gentilemen.. NOT F1 TEAMS!
We arent corporate sponsored teams.
Most of us have kids to fees and real cars to take care of . let alone a home and griceries to buy. We all dont live at home with mommy you know!
Rubber tires on carpet .. good fun and not too pricy to keep a car running. I love it! And im NOT afraid of hp .. just that id rather race and ghave to qualify for the "A" instead of just ending up in it 'cause theres not enough ppl to fill a few heats. Thats a big issue , theres just too many different types of cars to run and unless you can afford 2 or 3 classes . then theres time limitations like race martial race martial.. god forbid you would actually have to work on the car . Toy cars gentilemen.. NOT F1 TEAMS!
11-26-2008, 11:16 AM
#498
https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/c...ns&pn=SMC4025S
11-27-2008, 06:21 AM
#499
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According to Stormer's site the SMC 3.7v pack wieghs 122 grams.
https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/c...ns&pn=SMC4025S
https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/c...ns&pn=SMC4025S
11-27-2008, 08:44 AM
#500
Well.. yes caveman adam. the fiberglass wears out (slowly but surely) altering the characteristics of the handeling of your car. Ok ,its a tuner thing too but lets face it I've seen 12th racers with bags of them new and used. There musta been $150 worth of them labled from thickness and the # of runs on them. Tbars are also not as tough in a collision , to getthem to work better on bumpy tracks, or if you just dont want to kill a lower pod plate you have to remove the center screw. so.. yes! I believe tbars are on their way out. Oh, and Billy Jean King is smoking you out!
11-27-2008, 09:08 AM
#501
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Well.. yes caveman adam. the fiberglass wears out (slowly but surely) altering the characteristics of the handeling of your car. Ok ,its a tuner thing too but lets face it I've seen 12th racers with bags of them new and used. There musta been $150 worth of them labled from thickness and the # of runs on them. Tbars are also not as tough in a collision , to getthem to work better on bumpy tracks, or if you just dont want to kill a lower pod plate you have to remove the center screw. so.. yes! I believe tbars are on their way out. Oh, and Billy Jean King is smoking you out!
A fellow racer gave me 2 of those spring-steel plates to use. I bolt them together and go banging away at the boards with out a single broken or bent plate. I've had a few of the fast guys wheel my car and they have said it's pretty close to what their are handling like so I don't sweat the difference. Anyhow, I'm pretty sure that t-bars aren't going anywhere anytime soon but I could certainly be wrong. Of course, so could you 
11-27-2008, 09:14 AM
#502
LOL opinions are like .... everybody has one. 
And if that dont .. You know what they are full of. 
And if that dont .. You know what they are full of.
11-27-2008, 10:44 AM
#504
Just thought I'd throw this in. At the recent BRCA 12th National many of the Associated drivers put the T bar conversion on their R5s because they said it felt better.
11-27-2008, 01:06 PM
#505
That's a lot of great info on single cell, thanks to the people that spent the time to do this testing
I might have give a single cell a try, since I have a T-bar car a saddle pack is a must. I saw the post about the single 4800mah trak power pack and that seems like a good option plus I could always use it in my off-road stuff if I didn't like it. Looking at the Trak power saddle pack it seems that for use in a 1/10 scale car the two packs would be wired in series so if I used the 3200mah saddle pack and wire the two cells in parallel that will give me 1S2P 6400mah......BB
Trak power 3200 saddle pack Dimensions
L= 71mm
W= 47mm
H= 22mm Weight= 102grams
I might have give a single cell a try, since I have a T-bar car a saddle pack is a must. I saw the post about the single 4800mah trak power pack and that seems like a good option plus I could always use it in my off-road stuff if I didn't like it. Looking at the Trak power saddle pack it seems that for use in a 1/10 scale car the two packs would be wired in series so if I used the 3200mah saddle pack and wire the two cells in parallel that will give me 1S2P 6400mah......BBTrak power 3200 saddle pack Dimensions
L= 71mm
W= 47mm
H= 22mm Weight= 102grams
11-27-2008, 01:10 PM
#506
Not a bad price either.....BB
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXVXT9&P=7
I noticed that tower lists the weight as 193 grams.....
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXVXT9&P=7
I noticed that tower lists the weight as 193 grams.....
11-27-2008, 10:40 PM
#507
Tech Fanatic
Why does a T-bar car need saddle packs? Since the LiPo is a fraction of the weight of the NiMh pack, what would be the problem to raise a 'stick' pack on posts so it bridged the T-bar?
Since to get grip you need roll, and since the LiPo is a light weight, low down, that gives less roll, wouldn't it seem logical to use a single-cell LiPo pack, raise it a bit to clear the T-bar, and get some roll into the car at the same time? Or have I missed the point?
If I were trying this (which I am not) I'd want to put CofG as close to where it is now, not put it so close to the roll centre that the car reduces its weight transfer, and thus grip... Just my 2p.
Since to get grip you need roll, and since the LiPo is a light weight, low down, that gives less roll, wouldn't it seem logical to use a single-cell LiPo pack, raise it a bit to clear the T-bar, and get some roll into the car at the same time? Or have I missed the point?
If I were trying this (which I am not) I'd want to put CofG as close to where it is now, not put it so close to the roll centre that the car reduces its weight transfer, and thus grip... Just my 2p.
11-28-2008, 05:13 AM
#508
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Why does a T-bar car need saddle packs? Since the LiPo is a fraction of the weight of the NiMh pack, what would be the problem to raise a 'stick' pack on posts so it bridged the T-bar?
Since to get grip you need roll, and since the LiPo is a light weight, low down, that gives less roll, wouldn't it seem logical to use a single-cell LiPo pack, raise it a bit to clear the T-bar, and get some roll into the car at the same time? Or have I missed the point?
If I were trying this (which I am not) I'd want to put CofG as close to where it is now, not put it so close to the roll centre that the car reduces its weight transfer, and thus grip... Just my 2p.
Since to get grip you need roll, and since the LiPo is a light weight, low down, that gives less roll, wouldn't it seem logical to use a single-cell LiPo pack, raise it a bit to clear the T-bar, and get some roll into the car at the same time? Or have I missed the point?
If I were trying this (which I am not) I'd want to put CofG as close to where it is now, not put it so close to the roll centre that the car reduces its weight transfer, and thus grip... Just my 2p.
) and this pack feel like checking?
11-28-2008, 11:56 AM
#509
Would it clear if the front shock mount was higher?