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Old 01-14-2009, 01:24 PM   #256
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'09 rulebook will have WGT and Trans Am. The rulebook is still being printed.
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'09 rulebook will have WGT and Trans Am. The rulebook is still being printed.
Available online already. Check pages 50-51 for references to WGT rules. Body rules look a bit more open than the WGT.com rules.
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Thanks Rob. I'm still thinking we'll run it slower than even they can imagine to start out with @ 21.5/lipo. I really don't want to go 13.5 4 cell.
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Available online already. Check pages 50-51 for references to WGT rules. Body rules look a bit more open than the WGT.com rules.
I found it. I'll be in line with everything but 4 cell restriction and motor choice so it seems for now anyway. I've got the new 4 cells from my failed attempt at 17.5 4 cell TA. I'd need a 13.5 if I wanted to run at a sanctioned event. Not too bad really.
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Thanks Rob. I'm still thinking we'll run it slower than even they can imagine to start out with @ 21.5/lipo. I really don't want to go 13.5 4 cell.
I think you'll find the 21.5/LiPo will actually be pretty darn close to the 13.5/4-cell speed. 17.5/LiPo is DEFINITELY a fair bit faster than 13.5/4-cell. Thus far in WGT I've seen:

17.5/4-cell...maybe kinda slow but VERY close and competitive. Faster than VTA.

13.5/4-cell...faster yet, but not as fast as the 17.5/LiPo cars they were running with and supposedly "equal to".

17.5/Lipo...fastest combo I've seen yet.

Next month, provided flooding in W. Washington recedes, I'm looking forward to running 10.5/4-cell with the NWIC boys. That ought to be pretty quick.

The Magic City Classic (our 2-day) will run WGT's posted rules, so 13.5/4-cell.

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I think you'll find the 21.5/LiPo will actually be pretty darn close to the 13.5/4-cell speed. 17.5/LiPo is DEFINITELY a fair bit faster than 13.5/4-cell. Thus far in WGT I've seen:

17.5/4-cell...maybe kinda slow but VERY close and competitive. Faster than VTA.

13.5/4-cell...faster yet, but not as fast as the 17.5/LiPo cars they were running with and supposedly "equal to".

17.5/Lipo...fastest combo I've seen yet.

Next month, provided flooding in W. Washington recedes, I'm looking forward to running 10.5/4-cell with the NWIC boys. That ought to be pretty quick.

The Magic City Classic (our 2-day) will run WGT's posted rules, so 13.5/4-cell.

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That's what I'm thinking. Its hard to run with the majority when no one is really gearing up for this class yet. I don't mind being on the bleeding edge of a class, but its lonely out here!
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That's what I'm thinking. Its hard to run with the majority when no one is really gearing up for this class yet. I don't mind being on the bleeding edge of a class, but its lonely out here!
Move to Colorado and You'll be in the middle of the pack...... Some of us never quit running pan cars. Outside we still run 235 cars with 6cell / lipo and 10.5's. We have a ton of fun and boy are they quick!!!
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Old 01-15-2009, 10:51 AM   #263
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Move to Colorado and You'll be in the middle of the pack...... Some of us never quit running pan cars. Outside we still run 235 cars with 6cell / lipo and 10.5's. We have a ton of fun and boy are they quick!!!
I wish. I've actually never run it. I started off road in 86, touring car in 98 and first road course foam tired car with my F103 in September of 2008. That would have been some great experience for sure. With all the responses I've seen, it looks like 21.5/lipo will be the ticket locally. The CRC is here and should be built this weekend. Testing to start on Monday.
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You know maybe somebody ought to try to get WGT put on at a Grand-Am or ALMS event...get the class to the masses. Itd benefit WGT AND RC in general Id think

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Old 01-19-2009, 10:39 AM   #265
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I wish. I've actually never run it. I started off road in 86, touring car in 98 and first road course foam tired car with my F103 in September of 2008. That would have been some great experience for sure. With all the responses I've seen, it looks like 21.5/lipo will be the ticket locally. The CRC is here and should be built this weekend. Testing to start on Monday.
Man is the CRC with a 21.5 quick! Thanks for all the help everyone. I'll have mine at the RCP track Saturday for the event along with my F1 and TA car.
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We Have a big following of wgt 17.5 lipo in No Cal,It has to be the funnest class I have ever ran.....The class is really growing 1 to 2 new cars every week.
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We Have a big following of wgt 17.5 lipo in No Cal,It has to be the funnest class I have ever ran.....The class is really growing 1 to 2 new cars every week.
Ours is doing as well, we are now into 2 heats and if the rest of the cars that are out there, we'll be up to 20+ cars before our 2 day race in March and WGT will be one of the hardest classes to win. We may make one racer run the 13.5 4cell and everyone else 17.5 lipo ..... just wish I was the racer that would have to run 13.5 4 cell. But hey I helped get this class off the ground!!
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Torque steer is not my friend. I ran my CRC geared at 100/40 with a 21.5/lipo and could not get rid of it. Half way down the back stretch I try to ease into more throttle and the rear end kicks to the right every single time anywhere from half to full throttle. I'm running the spec CRC tires. I'm thinking I have to go a lot smaller on the pinion and larger on the spur just to make it driveable. Is my thinking wrong? Rollout is around 2.76" at present. I did manage to break a steering block while I was at it. Spares on the way...
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Torque steer is not my friend. I ran my CRC geared at 100/40 with a 21.5/lipo and could not get rid of it. Half way down the back stretch I try to ease into more throttle and the rear end kicks to the right every single time anywhere from half to full throttle. I'm running the spec CRC tires. I'm thinking I have to go a lot smaller on the pinion and larger on the spur just to make it driveable. Is my thinking wrong? Rollout is around 2.76" at present. I did manage to break a steering block while I was at it. Spares on the way...
I suggest you post that question on the CRC thread where people running that car will see it.

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Couple things that resolved that issue for me were diff adjustment and tweak adjustment...but there is a longer list of possibilities.
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I think a limited spec is the way to go. We've been working on getting world GT running at our local track. We created some basic rules, but our thing is to be as permissive as possible without making it a free for all.

For motors, we're allowing 13.5/4 cell or 21.5/lipo. Straightaway speeds and lap times are pretty close. In the hands of a really good driver, lap times have been comparable to 13.5 TC. We spec'd the Jaco tires but are allowing whatever body you want to run, just don't show up with a TC shell.

We've got lots of people interested and what seems to be the key is keeping speeds down to a reasonable level. The cars handle so well at the slower speeds that folks who have problems getting a TC around the track can get these around without putting it into the boards.

We'll even let F1 cars run with the GT cars. The tamiya stock F103 fits in pretty well. We're starting to see some of those showing. We should have enough for their own class soon, but until then - line em up.

I haven't read all of the posts, but I think for local club racing the body thing is an important point along with speed. Let people run what they want, total spec classes will turn people off that want to run something a little different. The USVTA guys have it about right and we tried to do sort of the same thing - some spec, but enough variation to allow people some choices. We want to get more people in the door and let them have fun. The thing about these cars is you can run some other cool bodies and still have a decent handling car, unlike TC. Sure, the Sophia or Mulsanne might be faster, but if someone can run a Lambo and not be totally off the pace, they're going to have fun and that's what this class is all about for us.
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