YmeBP

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Cousin of the Mongoose? They look almost exactly the same except for the case color. I wonder ....

http://www.teamnovak.com/products/br...ort/index.html

Skitee

I think it's probably closer to the XBR than the mongoose

padailey

iTrader: (11)

By the specs it looks the same as an XBR on the brushless side but the brushed side is better on the XBR. For $140 with 8.5 motor sounds like a good deal to me.

RCSteve93

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Not the same. Smart engineering by re-using a few parts.

sim600

iTrader: (15)

Looks like XBR is more powerful on the brushed side. Maybe this is just cheaper to make than the XBR and Novak figured nobody uses it for brushed anyway.

YmeBP

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But it's so much smaller than an xbr!! I just jumped ship to Tekin hahaha then they release this!!

trailranger

I maybe wrong, but looks like a newer version of the XBR. Maybe a different and cheaper style of fets like what Castle did with introducing the Sidewinder.
Right now isn't the time to charge $300 a ESC when the r/c market is slim pickens. Novak can start to pull in the brushless fence sitters by offering a cheaper system before the start of ROAR's 2009 Brushless season.

The foot print of the Havok and XBR is the same and larger than a mongoose. So this is not a Mongoose with an extra layer of fets.

marvi

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the mongoose is for micro (380 size motor & smaller) & the havoc is for 1/10 (540 size)

Adam?

Orange? Yellow? Really?

SidewaysLS4

Looks like an XBR package with sintered rotor instead of bonded.

YmeBP

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Heheh, i know i have a mongoose, trying to shoe horn it into my m18. I dunno just w/ all the co/re/oem branding going w/ motors and various other stuff thought novak was getting on the same wagon.