U.S. Vintage Trans-Am [PICS & PAINT Discussion ONLY!!!]
#2552
Thanks Guys
Carl decals worked out great
thanks
Carl decals worked out great
thanks
#2553
Wish I could post pictures. Haven't made enough posts yet to allow me to post pictures.
I did a 68 camaro with the proline short course driver set and hand built roll cage.
Drivers helmet visor was left clear for the micro video recorder I'm going to put in it...
I did a 68 camaro with the proline short course driver set and hand built roll cage.
Drivers helmet visor was left clear for the micro video recorder I'm going to put in it...
#2556
I use Testors Model Masters Flat Black Lacquer. You just need to make sure you get Model Masters Lacquer & not Enamel. Just mask off your hood, and paint it on the outside of the body (you can paint it on the inside too if you want, but I normally don't). It adheres well and does flex with the body. Unfortunatley, with painting it on the outside it is not very scratch resistant so be careful securing and removing your body pins. I use Testors Model Masters Lacquers almost exclusively on my VTA bodies as they have plenty of authentic automotive colors from the 60s-70s. Hope this helps. Good luck
#2557
Is there a reason why the ABC Mazda RX3 isn't allowed as a VTA accepted body? It was ran in the early 70's in Trans Am before it was condemned to IMSA only.
Just wondered.
Just wondered.
#2559
I'm sure we can appreciate your National pride but that really has nothing to do with the reality of it.
Trans Am "grew" into a more diverse class. The 70's gas crisis and influx of japanese imports had something to do with it.
Smaller displacement motors were allowed along with smaller cars as compared to the American "heavy iron" musclecars.
The emphasis of VTA has centered around the most prolific days of Trans Am.
From a purely realistic viewpoint, the Mazda would be more of a Mini chassis as compared to a standard 1/10 touring car chassis.
Trans Am "grew" into a more diverse class. The 70's gas crisis and influx of japanese imports had something to do with it.
Smaller displacement motors were allowed along with smaller cars as compared to the American "heavy iron" musclecars.
The emphasis of VTA has centered around the most prolific days of Trans Am.
From a purely realistic viewpoint, the Mazda would be more of a Mini chassis as compared to a standard 1/10 touring car chassis.
#2560
Tech Champion
iTrader: (2)
I think we had the same conversation concerning the Alfa Romeo's and the BRE Datsun body shells. Also the split window Vette and the Pantera bodies, which would be fine in there. They would look good too, but they will not be on the legal list. The USVTA is going for a particular look.
#2561
So then I suppose it comes down to semantics. I understand the idea behind VTA, but I'll be honest, I hate the look of the Camaro, Cuda, Challenger, and Mustang, they're boring. One of you said it, Trans Am "Grew" way back then, so why can't VTA "Grow" now? When we get down to brass tax, the chassis are all set up similarly, its all in driver ability, so what is the big deal with a body that actually follows the progression of actual Trans Am. If that's what we're going after, then progression is natural. The ABC RX3 body is a 190mm or 200mm body, so it would be the same size.
#2562
Keep in mind that most people consider that growth as a bad thing.
The heyday and original intent of Trans Am was to showcase the American musclecars.
Once the smaller displacement euro and japanese imports got involved (as a "sub" class by the way) and the Musclecar era was ending, Trans Am became a different animal all together.
VTA is meant to showcase the original and most revered time in TA history.
Personally, if VTA ever decides to add on to the program, a mini chassis based sub category could be offered.
For those that like the datsun 510, 240Z, mazda, bmw 2002,etc....that would cover that base but in the meantime, VTA is a great program just the way it is.
As a suggestion, nothing is stopping you from running whatever vintage style body you want on a local level.
Keep in mind that bodies like the Mazda probably won't work well with the VTA offset tires/wheels. And NO, that rule shouldn't change just for the sake of a different body choice.
I'm in no way arguing with you but there's a right way and a wrong way to approach the issue.
The heyday and original intent of Trans Am was to showcase the American musclecars.
Once the smaller displacement euro and japanese imports got involved (as a "sub" class by the way) and the Musclecar era was ending, Trans Am became a different animal all together.
VTA is meant to showcase the original and most revered time in TA history.
Personally, if VTA ever decides to add on to the program, a mini chassis based sub category could be offered.
For those that like the datsun 510, 240Z, mazda, bmw 2002,etc....that would cover that base but in the meantime, VTA is a great program just the way it is.
As a suggestion, nothing is stopping you from running whatever vintage style body you want on a local level.
Keep in mind that bodies like the Mazda probably won't work well with the VTA offset tires/wheels. And NO, that rule shouldn't change just for the sake of a different body choice.
I'm in no way arguing with you but there's a right way and a wrong way to approach the issue.
#2563
Have done this with a lot of bodies and it works great.
#2564
Tech Apprentice
Keep in mind that most people consider that growth as a bad thing.
The heyday and original intent of Trans Am was to showcase the American musclecars.
Once the smaller displacement euro and japanese imports got involved (as a "sub" class by the way) and the Musclecar era was ending, Trans Am became a different animal all together.
VTA is meant to showcase the original and most revered time in TA history.
Personally, if VTA ever decides to add on to the program, a mini chassis based sub category could be offered.
For those that like the datsun 510, 240Z, mazda, bmw 2002,etc....that would cover that base but in the meantime, VTA is a great program just the way it is.
As a suggestion, nothing is stopping you from running whatever vintage style body you want on a local level.
Keep in mind that bodies like the Mazda probably won't work well with the VTA offset tires/wheels. And NO, that rule shouldn't change just for the sake of a different body choice.
I'm in no way arguing with you but there's a right way and a wrong way to approach the issue.
The heyday and original intent of Trans Am was to showcase the American musclecars.
Once the smaller displacement euro and japanese imports got involved (as a "sub" class by the way) and the Musclecar era was ending, Trans Am became a different animal all together.
VTA is meant to showcase the original and most revered time in TA history.
Personally, if VTA ever decides to add on to the program, a mini chassis based sub category could be offered.
For those that like the datsun 510, 240Z, mazda, bmw 2002,etc....that would cover that base but in the meantime, VTA is a great program just the way it is.
As a suggestion, nothing is stopping you from running whatever vintage style body you want on a local level.
Keep in mind that bodies like the Mazda probably won't work well with the VTA offset tires/wheels. And NO, that rule shouldn't change just for the sake of a different body choice.
I'm in no way arguing with you but there's a right way and a wrong way to approach the issue.
Well said, I haven't been to my first race yet but have my car. From what i have read in the rules the only change I would like to see is a cheaper motor option. I bought mine used and it was already VTA legal but when I saw that the motor for the "affordable" racing class was 100 bucks, I had a bit of sticker shock. The biggest factor that drew me towards this class was the bodies and I can't wait for my first race.
#2565
So then I suppose it comes down to semantics. I understand the idea behind VTA, but I'll be honest, I hate the look of the Camaro, Cuda, Challenger, and Mustang, they're boring. One of you said it, Trans Am "Grew" way back then, so why can't VTA "Grow" now? When we get down to brass tax, the chassis are all set up similarly, its all in driver ability, so what is the big deal with a body that actually follows the progression of actual Trans Am. If that's what we're going after, then progression is natural. The ABC RX3 body is a 190mm or 200mm body, so it would be the same size.
If you've got a USVTA legal 4WD car, you only need to upgrade the motor, swap out the wheels and tires (and body since you don't like muscle cars, but USVTA bodies meet USGT requirements as is), lighten your car by 100g and you're ready to run.