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Old 09-24-2009, 08:54 PM   #1246
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What speedo, motor and battery are you running? Are you running slicks or xpatterns (RCGT)?
speedo lrp sxxtc montor fantom 17.5,tires,jaco blue,battery fantom 5000 40c 2 cell.


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Do you guys have any input on what some good light durability upgrades would be?

They don't make a full hopup conversion for the TB-03 like they do for the TT-01 do they?

Are yeah racings, 3racings, gpm good? Or will they leave play? I have hunch i should stick with genuine tamiya. For the steering column and what not. Better to go genuine tamiya, the others might leave play. Or they are all the same dimensions to the point?

Will the 3racing tb03 graphite conversion fit the tb03d?
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I'm done fighting with my scanner not working with Vista so here is my attempt to write it out.

Most of you already know I run the stock blocks, shims and spacers per kit instructions.

TRF shocks with the thin spring collar. 3 hole pistons with 550 Kyosho all 4.

Built to 61.5mm in length. full rebound for most tracks (except bumpy ones)

Blue springs front, yellow or red for rear depending on bumps and traction. Red mostly.

push rods at 14.5mm and #2 arm position all around
Shock position #2 on rear tower

Front: #4 camber position w/3mm shim.
Rear: #4 w/2mm shim and #2 on hub.

TA05 sway bars. Usually yellow front, red rear. Recent changes in front diff I took the front bar off.

Droop: I take the tires off and set the chassis on a flat surface. Then I take my calipers and measure from the top of the axle to the surface. All 4 axles I set to .950 inch. (24.1mm)

Ride height: Here I use a gauge under the chassis. Most of the time I run 6-6.5mm on all tracks. At Cam I was looking for more steering without sacrificing stability so I went to 5mm in front with 6mm rear and took .25mm of droop out in front. (24.4mm)

Anything else let me know....... :
Great info and very generous of you to share. I'm going to try much of this setup on my IFS-R and see what happens.

Is 550 Kyosho oil equivalent to 55 wt. silicone?
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Old 09-25-2009, 12:27 AM   #1249
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Do you guys have any input on what some good light durability upgrades would be?

They don't make a full hopup conversion for the TB-03 like they do for the TT-01 do they?

Are yeah racings, 3racings, gpm good? Or will they leave play? I have hunch i should stick with genuine tamiya. For the steering column and what not. Better to go genuine tamiya, the others might leave play. Or they are all the same dimensions to the point?

Will the 3racing tb03 graphite conversion fit the tb03d?
I have had good experience with 3 racing, everything fits well. For the steering and drive-train upgrades i would go with tamiya, since it deals with moving parts.

I had the 3racing steering column, it looked cool but had just as much play as the stock one. For that definitely go with tamiya.

Right now i got the 3racing's graphite rear shock tower, metal suspension blocks, and their graphite chassis, and everything else are tamiya parts. I like it.
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TA05 sway bars. Usually yellow front, red rear. Recent changes in front diff I took the front bar off.
What changes?
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Is 550 Kyosho oil equivalent to 55 wt. silicone?
No. The 550 is in CST (centistokes) which is a metric unit. CST is a linear system while WT is not. If I remember right, at the low end, they are somewhat close, but as you get thicker, they diverge enough to really matter. When I say low end, I mean like 20 WT / 200 CST.

If you are having a hard time finding a set of oils rated in CST, Tower carries Muchmore which is a well respected shock oil.

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What changes?
I figured it has something to do with the front "slipperential" he mentioned.

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No. The 550 is in CPS which is a metric unit. CPS is a linear system while WT is not. If I remember right, at the low end, they are somewhat close, but as you get thicker, they diverge enough to really matter. When I say low end, I mean like 20 WT / 200 CPS.

If you are having a hard time finding a set of oils rated in CPS, Tower carries Muchmore which is a well respected shock oil.
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speedo lrp sxxtc montor fantom 17.5,tires,jaco blue,battery fantom 5000 40c 2 cell.


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First of all great choice in battery and motor!!

Run "0" degrees of motor timing and gear at 3.5 to start. Take temps. Though indoors you wont run into higher temps as in out doors unless you are waaaayyyy over geared.

Lap times are going to be your deciding factor. If your time get faster by gearing up by all means do so. These motors will run very happy up to 180* safely. However indoor carpet that would be too much.

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Great info and very generous of you to share. I'm going to try much of this setup on my IFS-R and see what happens.

Is 550 Kyosho oil equivalent to 55 wt. silicone?
Pete,

No. It's closer to 45 Associated or 40 Losi.

Newer Associated fluids have the CPS value on the bottle as well as Wt.


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What changes?
I built a "slipperential" for the front which took away some off power steering.
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I'm probably going overboard here, but here's more on shock oil viscosity for anyone that cares:

http://www.twf8.ws/php/index.php?opt...per&Itemid=175

Earlier I wrote that the metric oil ratings were in CPS (centipoise) and that's not quite right. They're rated in CTS (centistokes) which happens to be very close to having values equivalent to CPS in the case of silicon oil.
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No. It's closer to 45 Associated or 40 Losi.

Newer Associated fluids have the CPS value on the bottle as well as Wt.


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if you would have used TRF or Much More oil.... you would have gained 0.1/sec per lap.
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I asked because I have about every weight of AE silicone oil.

You're right, in the small print on each bottle is the centistoke rating.

40 wt. AE=500 CST

45 wt. AE=575 CST

I usually run the 40 or 45 so I guess I wasn't that far off.
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I'm probably going overboard here, but here's more on shock oil viscosity for anyone that cares:

http://www.twf8.ws/php/index.php?opt...per&Itemid=175

Earlier I wrote that the metric oil ratings were in CPS (centipoise) and that's not quite right. They're rated in CTS (centistokes) which happens to be very close to having values equivalent to CPS in the case of silicon oil.
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Well, funny thing. I was having issues fitting the 46mm swing shafts in my car. It was discussed in this thread about widening up the car with some C or D blocks. I ended up stripping a front hub so I bought aftermarket front knuckles and C hubs. Now the 46mm swing shafts fit great. They must widen it up a bit. They were 3racing parts.
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