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Old 01-11-2009, 01:11 PM   #151
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Okay after a few test sessions I finally got the car ready for 17.5 indoor carpet but I have a few questions:
1. The ride height issue was a pain to get down to 4.5mm and 5.0mm respectively so I made the pushrods 12mm and the used an o-ring inside the rear shocks since I'm already at 0mm on the shock threads. Is this correct or is there an easier way to go?
2. Below is a picture of my electronics layout, obviously space is at a premium but does anyone else have a better layout running brushless?
3. The new 3.0mm carbon rear damper tower changes the body mounting position to the outside (a good thing since the stock one gets in the way of the droop/rebound adjustment). I assume this will be the same as the 416 now?
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Okay after a few test sessions I finally got the car ready for 17.5 indoor carpet but I have a few questions:
1. The ride height issue was a pain to get down to 4.5mm and 5.0mm respectively so I made the pushrods 12mm and the used an o-ring inside the rear shocks since I'm already at 0mm on the shock threads. Is this correct or is there an easier way to go?
2. Below is a picture of my electronics layout, obviously space is at a premium but does anyone else have a better layout running brushless?
3. The new 3.0mm carbon rear damper tower changes the body mounting position to the outside (a good thing since the stock one gets in the way of the droop/rebound adjustment). I assume this will be the same as the 416 now?
Thanks in advance.
shorten your push rods... then get to the ride you want by adjusting the collars on your shocks.
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Old 01-13-2009, 07:10 PM   #153
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Will the TB03 be good in GT3?
I bought one so it mite be used in GT3 this spring.
Thank you for the info.
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Old 01-14-2009, 08:33 AM   #154
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dragracer72nova: The TB-03 should be great for GT-3 and GT-2. If nothing else you should upgrade to universal swing shafts (get the steel ones for the front and can go aluminum in the back) and aluminum diff halves. TRF shocks are nice but the plastic ones work just fine. If you are racing GT-2 you will need to swap out the spur since you need to get to a FDR of 3.5~4.0. The TB-03 is a great car and I'm current using it in 17.5 (I'm using it over a 416).

All: Does anyone have anyone have anymore details about this?
http://www.rc-area.co.uk/blog/2009/0...onversion-kit/
This would be nice for indoor racing since I'm not a big fan of 3racing products and being from Tech the fit and build are second to none.
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dragracer72nova: The TB-03 should be great for GT-3 and GT-2. If nothing else you should upgrade to universal swing shafts (get the steel ones for the front and can go aluminum in the back) and aluminum diff halves. TRF shocks are nice but the plastic ones work just fine. If you are racing GT-2 you will need to swap out the spur since you need to get to a FDR of 3.5~4.0. The TB-03 is a great car and I'm current using it in 17.5 (I'm using it over a 416).

All: Does anyone have anyone have anymore details about this?
http://www.rc-area.co.uk/blog/2009/0...onversion-kit/
This would be nice for indoor racing since I'm not a big fan of 3racing products and being from Tech the fit and build are second to none.

The only problem I have is I have a TA05IFS and the TB03IFS. I do not know which one I would like to race in GT2 or GT3. I would like to use the best car for each class and start working on setup for both.
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Old 01-14-2009, 01:49 PM   #156
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I'm in the same boat.
For the TCS in March, I'll be running my TA05 IFS in GT2 and my TB03 in GT3

for me it's a comfort thing.
When I find a setup for the TB03 that I like, I'll eventually run the TB03 in the 17.5 class at my local track.

I barely nicked a barrier during my first practice run with the TB03 and broke a C carrier.... I'm currently waiting for the replacement parts.

How do you guys make quick pinion changes using a BL motor. I have to remove the motor mount. Seems like the shaft of the motor is way long.
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I'm in the same boat.
For the TCS in March, I'll be running my TA05 IFS in GT2 and my TB03 in GT3

for me it's a comfort thing.
When I find a setup for the TB03 that I like, I'll eventually run the TB03 in the 17.5 class at my local track.

I barely nicked a barrier during my first practice run with the TB03 and broke a C carrier.... I'm currently waiting for the replacement parts.

How do you guys make quick pinion changes using a BL motor. I have to remove the motor mount. Seems like the shaft of the motor is way long.
What kind of pinions are you using? The Robinson Racing 64p pinions have a lower stack height so just taking out the gear cover works. I have some PRS pinions and they have a higher stack height so switching pinions is a pain but found the Robinson gears to be fine. I currently run up to a 53 pinion from Robinson Racing and that seems to work fine (with a RR 78 spur...I tried the PRS 72 spur but it was hard to look at the gear mesh since the spur was black and the RR ones are white). I'm also using the Novak 17.5 motor doesn't seem be a problem interms of motor shaft length.
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What kind of pinions are you using? The Robinson Racing 64p pinions have a lower stack height so just taking out the gear cover works. I have some PRS pinions and they have a higher stack height so switching pinions is a pain but found the Robinson gears to be fine. I currently run up to a 53 pinion from Robinson Racing and that seems to work fine (with a RR 78 spur...I tried the PRS 72 spur but it was hard to look at the gear mesh since the spur was black and the RR ones are white). I'm also using the Novak 17.5 motor doesn't seem be a problem interms of motor shaft length.
I'm using a 57 PRS one. I'll look into the Robinson Racing pinions. I'll going to switch to a 74t spur so my pinions don't have to be quite so large. I'm using an 86 spur and 56-57 pinion right now.

Have you found a solid setup for the 17.5 class yet? oil, piston, spring, ride height, sways? I'm still in the initial stages of figuring out what this chassis likes. ex. does it like to lean... or stay flat...
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I'm using a 57 PRS one. I'll look into the Robinson Racing pinions. I'll going to switch to a 74t spur so my pinions don't have to be quite so large. I'm using an 86 spur and 56-57 pinion right now.

Have you found a solid setup for the 17.5 class yet? oil, piston, spring, ride height, sways? I'm still in the initial stages of figuring out what this chassis likes. ex. does it like to lean... or stay flat...
Markus: Here is the setup I am using right now but I will finalize it when I get back to the track on Sunday. This is for a medium size carpet track with good grip. I have some final testing to do on Sunday but this seems to work for me. I've upgraded all the parts except for the carbon rear damper stay (in the mail) and the chassis (no Tamiya option yet available). I haven't messed with different suspension mount combos yet. Running stock settings except for the following:

Front:
Ride Height: 5mm
Camber: 1 degree
Droop/Rebound: 1.5mm
Differential
4mm Wheel Hub w/ 0.5mm spacer
Foam in Shock
Piston: 3
Shock Oil: 500 (Tamiya Green)
Spring: Hard (Tamiya Blue)
Push Rod: 12mm

Rear:
Ride Height: 5mm
Camber: 1 degree
Droop/Rebound: 1.5mm
Differential
4mm Wheel Hub w/ 0.5mm spacer
Foam in Shock
Piston: 3
Shock Oil: 400 (Tamiya Yellow)
Spring: Medium (Tamiya Yellow)

Motor: Novak 17.5
FDR: 3.79 (78/50)
Body: PF Mazdaspeed 6
Tires: Sorex 28
Tire Additive: Paragon
Other: 3oz of weight on the left side
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Also before I forget, I have the TB-03 stock parts (drive shafts, axles, shocks, etc) and if you need the stock parts they are yours for free. Just pay for shipping. Before being told this should be in the FS/Trade thread, I didn't want to post there since this should be for TB-03 owners. First PM gets it. Let me know. Below are the pix.
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I'm in the same boat.
For the TCS in March, I'll be running my TA05 IFS in GT2 and my TB03 in GT3

for me it's a comfort thing.
When I find a setup for the TB03 that I like, I'll eventually run the TB03 in the 17.5 class at my local track.

I barely nicked a barrier during my first practice run with the TB03 and broke a C carrier.... I'm currently waiting for the replacement parts.

How do you guys make quick pinion changes using a BL motor. I have to remove the motor mount. Seems like the shaft of the motor is way long.
shave down the motor shaft.
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Markus: Here is the setup I am using right now but I will finalize it when I get back to the track on Sunday. This is for a medium size carpet track with good grip. I have some final testing to do on Sunday but this seems to work for me. I've upgraded all the parts except for the carbon rear damper stay (in the mail) and the chassis (no Tamiya option yet available). I haven't messed with different suspension mount combos yet. Running stock settings except for the following:

Front:
Ride Height: 5mm
Camber: 1 degree
Droop/Rebound: 1.5mm
Differential
4mm Wheel Hub w/ 0.5mm spacer
Foam in Shock
Piston: 3
Shock Oil: 500 (Tamiya Green)
Spring: Hard (Tamiya Blue)
Push Rod: 12mm

Rear:
Ride Height: 5mm
Camber: 1 degree
Droop/Rebound: 1.5mm
Differential
4mm Wheel Hub w/ 0.5mm spacer
Foam in Shock
Piston: 3
Shock Oil: 400 (Tamiya Yellow)
Spring: Medium (Tamiya Yellow)

Motor: Novak 17.5
FDR: 3.79 (78/50)
Body: PF Mazdaspeed 6
Tires: Sorex 28
Tire Additive: Paragon
Other: 3oz of weight on the left side
do you have swar bars on your car? also.. what blocks are you running?
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A/A & XA/D. Thinking about trying C/C up front. Also no sway bars yet but will try Hard front and M rear after seeing what C/C does up front.
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A/A & XA/D. Thinking about trying C/C up front. Also no sway bars yet but will try Hard front and M rear after seeing what C/C does up front.
cool.

have u tried adding spacers to your rocker arms yet?
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cool.

have u tried adding spacers to your rocker arms yet?
No I have not. Am I missing something? I'm guessing it effectively changes the dampening angle? I am an idiot on the IFS layout.
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