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Old 11-04-2002, 05:14 PM   #1411
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Hmmm. I tend to disagree on that. In terms of overall grip, yes the camber has minimal effect especially considering how the carcass shape of our tires doesn't seem to lend itself that well to camber thrust. In terms of slip angle feel, I think that camber gain is one of the more useful tools to use. I tend to run very parallel links in the rear to get the tires to roll over more for a progressive breakaway. In the front I tend to go for more aggressive camber gain to keep the front "locked in", but when the traction gives, it goes away big time and the front completely washes out. Ugh, hate typing this stuff. I'll talk to you when I get to the track.
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Old 11-05-2002, 04:12 AM   #1412
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I am going to Japan on the 13th of this month for the world champs tamiya race and while i am out there i am hoping to get myself a 414m2 or a WC edition. I just hope i can find the WC one somewhere Rick
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Is there another thread posted for the TA04's?

Which kit would you recommend, TRF414M, 414M2. I'm looking to use it in Stock, 24 degree, 27T racing. I thought about the TA04-R, the Raybrig 2002 one with all the hop ups but if the TRF414's are a better kit altogether than I may change my mind.

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Old 11-05-2002, 04:40 PM   #1414
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IS $380.00 A GOOD PRICE FOR A 414MII WORLDS KIT?
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Old 11-05-2002, 04:42 PM   #1415
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thats a really good price, if you dont want the kit let me know where to get it.
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Old 11-05-2002, 06:08 PM   #1416
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my people from japan are on the hunt for one, and thats what they found i also have another one on the way i think from a differnt friend
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Old 11-05-2002, 06:14 PM   #1417
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do you want to sell me one of them
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Old 11-05-2002, 09:02 PM   #1418
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Im not trying to spam you guys but if anyone is looking for a 414M2 here is a link to it on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ADME:B:LC:US:1

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Old 11-05-2002, 10:20 PM   #1419
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Do you guys know the Spring Rates for the Tamiya On Road Hard Springs? The red, yellow, blue and whites? Thanks!

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Old 11-06-2002, 12:48 AM   #1420
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justt to add does anyone know the spring rate for the older tamiya springs ...
orange green and light blue???

alvin my only guess is that the red is around 196g/mm as its almost the same as my kawada and the yellow is slightly more then 234g/mm harder then my kawada springs also ...


exact rates i dunno ...... does anyone have spring dyno to test them and post them here ???

we could really use it to calculate the amount of roll and body throw ...
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Old 11-06-2002, 06:42 AM   #1421
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Is there another thread posted for the TA04's?

Which kit would you recommend, TRF414M, 414M2. I'm looking to use it in Stock, 24 degree, 27T racing. I thought about the TA04-R, the Raybrig 2002 one with all the hop ups but if the TRF414's are a better kit altogether than I may change my mind.

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here's a thread for 04R's -

Ta04r... Woohoo!!!!!

i also asked that same question some months ago, whether to get an 04R or the 414M. i ended up getting the 414M because if i get the TA04R with the altezza body, i wanted to add some more hopups such as carbon fiber shock towers and lower chassis and front and center one-ways. i found a great deal from our LHS for the 414M and it seems like the better value because of the included hopups plus it has aluminum bulkheads and suspension arm mounts, which are much stronger than plastic parts. The TA04R is a great car out of the box, but i decided on the 414M. BTW, i also run stock (MVP & P2K2)

re. the difference between 414M and 414M2, i think someone posted a side-by-side comparision somewhere in this thread

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marvi - thanks for the info. The one that I was looking at was the Raybrig NSX 2002.
It has the following hop-ups

Double-deck frame of chassis features carbon reinforced resin lower deck and full carbon upper deck for increased durability. Chassis employs 2-belt 4WD with a full set of ball bearings as well as ball differential gears for maximum drive efficiency. With a full array of option parts and suspension that can be fine-tuned, this R/C chassis stays true to pure racing.

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Carbon Reinforced Resin Lower Deck
Fluorine Coated TRF Dampers
Aluminum Rear Bulkhead Beam
Aluminum Servo Stay
Torque Rod
Universal Shaft
Urethane Bumper
53284 5mm Aluminum Ball Connector
53433 Medium-Narrow Tires Type A
53434 Medium-Narrow Soft Inner
53436 TA04 Ball Differential Unit
53437 TA04 Aluminum Motor Heat Sink
53440 On-Road Tuned Hard Spring Set
53441 TA04 Color Stabilizer (Front)
53442 TA04 Color Stabilizer (Rear)
53448 4mm Hard Lock-Nut & Spacer Set
53452 TA04 Aluminum Hub for Spur Gear
53458 TA04 Racing Hub Carrier Set
53472 TA04 Toe-In Rear Uprights
53463 TA04 Low Friction Belt (Front)
53464 TA04 Low Friction Belt (Rear)
53465 TA04 Carbon Upper Deck
Full Bearing Set

*F/R Upper Arm, Steering Rod, Steering Linkage, and Torque Rod all use Turnbuckle Shaft.



What do the 414M go for?
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i think the TA04 R with the altezza body has almost the same included hopups as the raybrig model. in our lhs, the 414M costs about $390+. the 414M2 is cheaper at about $ 350+ and the 414M WCR is the most expensive at more than $500.

question: do you guys know what tires came with the 414M? are they sorex 28's? also, what compound are the included molded inserts (gray color)? sorry, i asked this question some months ago but i forgot the answer. thanks for any info
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i also think the 414m came with sorex 28s
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Quote:
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[B]i think the TA04 R with the altezza body has almost the same included hopups as the raybrig model. in our lhs, the 414M costs about $390+. the 414M2 is cheaper at about $ 350+ and the 414M WCR is the most expensive at more than $500.
I think your right about the Altezza and the Raybrig but I wouldn't want to run that Altezza body...............sweet looking body.

Hmm. the 414M2 is less expensive than the 414M........Interesting. is there any particular reason why it's $40.00 less
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