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Old 10-07-2002, 11:56 AM   #1216
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Hi,
I was just wondering if anyone has used this conversion for the 414M?

here is the link
http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~kmodels/414mkaipro.htm

i just ordered one.
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Old 10-07-2002, 12:19 PM   #1217
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Alvin, Thanks for the info!!! I checked the blocks and I have one set with the 2 degree and another with nothing on them.
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Old 10-07-2002, 07:23 PM   #1218
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Default Re: kai conversion for the 414m II

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Hi,
I was just wondering if anyone has used this conversion for the 414M?

here is the link
http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~kmodels/414mkaipro.htm

i just ordered one.
Just wondering how did you order a Kai chassis???? I emailed them directly and get no reply. Do you mind posting a link to the website.? Thanks

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Old 10-07-2002, 07:29 PM   #1219
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i have a few friends who live in Japan.

It was pretty expensive though.
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Old 10-07-2002, 09:30 PM   #1220
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Try living a comman life in Japan, a non army or navy one! Been in Japan for years nows, prices are not bad if you know where to buy.
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Old 10-08-2002, 01:27 AM   #1221
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hi guys ...... i also run 414m......
just wanted to tell ......



alvin what went wrong when u use the raised A-arms holders???
thinking of trying them ... cause the 414 is nowhere close to my beloved SV10II ..... - YET

lots of homework to do on the car
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Old 10-11-2002, 05:25 PM   #1222
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anyone have a good start for high bite aspult? for mod or stock
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Old 10-11-2002, 07:27 PM   #1223
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This is what I ran at my local track which I consider high grip.

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Shocks -63.7mm..Yellow springs..3 hole piston,40wt shock oil.I used assc., 4mm ride height. stock spacing under the aarm blocks, middle upper hole on shock tower..furthest most hole out on the a arm. arm spacing is all the way back. yellow sway bar. .7 spacer under front inner camber link.

Rear-63.7mm, Yellow springs, 3 hole pistons, 40 wt oil, 5 mm ride height, 1.4 mm under front bock to increase anit squat, rear none, stock toe, shock 2nd firtherst hole out on tower, furthest most hole out on the a arm (can go inside if u want more steering), spacing of arms was all the ways forward. no sway bar in the rear.3mm spacer under inner camber link.

I am geared at 39/120 with a P2K.
Tires where 36r(with Type A inserts) .temp is not up go to 28 or run a couple extra laps bewfore race. Also lower the graphite plate that connects the bellcranks with an extra 3mm spacer. I for get what it is call that it gets rid of( change of wheel angle while its compressed). Duel one ways. Droop is 5 or 6 mm all the way around. Body is Protoform V1 Stratus,

I think that covers it. Car is very easy to drive plus it is fast.
Also some of the local drivers have run the worlds set up but with 40 wt in the shocks. With much sucess.

Also if you are having trouble getting parts I highly suggest talking to Billy from Speedworld he carries every part for the car. And usually has it in.

Gl racing. Tell me how it handles for u.

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thanks I will try on sat
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tk....
i feel like trying out ur setup but would like to ask some questions

'Also lower the graphite plate that connects the bellcranks with an extra 3mm spacer'

what does this mean ???
if u say it removes the camber cahnge when compressing the suspension its actually removing something called bumstear

is the 3mm spacer on the graphite piece which connects the stearing together ?? .... but at stock setup i dont think it has any bum stearing as the camber angles do not change but when u place the 3mm spacer it does change to gain more neg camber when it compresses..... just tried it ....
or is it somewhere else......

the droop u used 5-6mm .....is it measured using the droop gauge or is it measured by the amount of travel downwords upon lifting the car of the ground from its full weight when its on the ground ??
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what's the main difference between the TRF414M & TRF414MII

. . . aside from the blue anodized parts? is the a big difference in terms of handling?

thanks!!!
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Imataquito- That is what I was talking about. Bump steer. Sorry if my wording was bad but bump steer just lost out my vocabualry at the moment. I talked to someone today and he said that he couldnt notice a difference so it might not be a big change. The droop is measured using a Asc. Droop gauge.

Hope this helps. Gl racing

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Old 10-12-2002, 08:40 PM   #1228
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ty tk
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Old 10-13-2002, 03:18 PM   #1229
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Default Strange Phenomenon?

Has anyone noticed that suspension adjustments are reversed on the 414? (i.e., to get more steering, harden the front/soften the rear, which is completely opposite.)

Me and another 414M driver found this to be. It seems to occur on two different surfaces i've tried it on.

If anyone has track time, please try it!

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Hmmm I'll have to try it here. We have a paved asphalt track and I'll try it out there. Should I try it in mod or stock? Foam or Rubber tires? Been looking to get my 414 to hook up. It seems fast and smooth here. But my TC3 is about .5 secs faster per lap than my 414. Of course this is in stock class with a new belt which seems to be pretty tense right now. Not even using the belt tensioner. I dunno, we'll see sometime this week during track testing....
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