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Old 09-26-2002, 10:36 PM   #1201
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You want to sell that to me with your car.....
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Old 09-26-2002, 10:41 PM   #1203
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I appreciate all you pics I'm sure they will come in handy when I try gather parts to complete my project 414.
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Old 09-26-2002, 11:03 PM   #1204
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Actually am thinking of selling it... I live in the philippines so that maybe a problem. Just don't trust internet/overseas transaction . No offense, just my nature.

Also, sometimes I feel like keeping it. Then other times, I want to sell it especially after looking at my increasing RC expenses heheheheheh...

Not all attached parts are TRF414. The front C-carriers have been upgraded. I wish I had the aluminum setting dish as well. I'm not the first owner so.... Would be cool if I can get it back to box specs though.
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Old 10-02-2002, 10:07 AM   #1205
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can anybody tell me (or what page in this thread it's located - too many pages!) the diff between the 414, 414X, 414M? Tnx!
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Old 10-02-2002, 12:27 PM   #1206
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Actually am thinking of selling it... I live in the philippines so that maybe a problem. Just don't trust internet/overseas transaction . No offense, just my nature.

Also, sometimes I feel like keeping it. Then other times, I want to sell it especially after looking at my increasing RC expenses heheheheheh...

Not all attached parts are TRF414. The front C-carriers have been upgraded. I wish I had the aluminum setting dish as well. I'm not the first owner so.... Would be cool if I can get it back to box specs though.
Do you have the original resin C-carriers? I want.
Along with the resin knuckles.
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Old 10-02-2002, 09:08 PM   #1207
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414X: prototype developed by Tamiya that was made available to the public. conventional double plated chassis design with dual belts. most parts were aluminum, carbon graphite, and nylon.

414: released to the public as a evolution to the 414X. improved specs such as lighter suspension pieces by replacing aluminum with resin, better chassis geometry with symmetrical left/right upperdeck and new chassis design.

414M: evolved from the 414. further improvements to suspension, chassis, and drivetrain layout. very few things were left unchanged between the 414 and the 414M making this almost a brand new car. the current M2 that won the championships is based on this car with subtle variations.

basically the cars are a evolved from each other. the biggest change was between the 414 and the 414M IMO.
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Old 10-02-2002, 09:20 PM   #1208
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thats good history.............. The 414x was rleased to the usa buyers in a limited number..........
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Old 10-03-2002, 01:08 AM   #1209
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This might help those who are looking/rebuilding a 414X.

http://www.vivace.net/set/trf414.html

I think the main difference between the X and the TRF414 is the aluminum parts. Tamiya decided to drop the aluminums in the TRF414. These are mainly the uprights and hub carriers.

I may be wrong of course..
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Old 10-03-2002, 01:45 AM   #1210
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There are a lot more differences between the 414 and the 414X.

As you said, the steering knuckle, C-hub, and rear upright were changed to resin pieces instead of aluminum, but there is more. The front bearing size in the steering knuckle changed. The A-arms uses a new design and also different material. The chassis and upper deck are different design for the 414. The 414 has that nifty carbon plate for the spur gear mount. The 414 also included a relieved and natural finished setting wheels versus the blue ones found on the X.
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What's up guys??? Got a question about roll center changes on the 414M2. Looking at some of the set ups posted on the net I see that a lot of them call for the addition of spacers under the front and rear hinge pin mounting blocks. Some of these set ups raise the block 5 to 6mm. How does raising or lowering the roll center (front or rear) effect this car???
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Most of these setups, including the one of Surikarn that he ran at the worlds, also add 5mm of spacers under the inner camber link. This actually lowers the CG by 5mm!
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ttt we were on the second page........
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OK, since you guys didn't like the first question I will ask another. Does anybody know what degree toe in the stock TA04 rear uprights are, I think they are zero is this correct???
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Hello The Teacher:
Check the blocks themselves, the stock ones on a TA04S is 1 degree. The 2 degree blocks have a -2 imprinted on to 'em, and they are also have slightly higher mounting points for the camber links. Be warned if you intend to add spacers etc. I found this out too late on my TC. The 2 degrees also provide an addition shock mounting point.
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