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Old 06-08-2013, 11:31 PM   #3406
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Can you send me a pictures?

What model TRF are these from?
Yes, email me and I will email the pics
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Old 06-20-2014, 10:18 AM   #3407
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Started messing around with this chassis again. Discovered some cool new things.

1) tb04 or evo6 gear diff is a drop in fit. Just use a oneway gear and shim. May have to sand off a little of the graphite from the shock tower.

2) evo5 spool works better than the evo4. It moves the oneway gear more to the center. The TA06 spool will work, but lots of shimming. And may have to use 46mm dog bones

3) I've been using lipo stick packs for awhile now. I wanted to use a shorty pack. All you have to do is reverse the plastic mounts so they face inwards. It looks like it was made for shorty packs.

4) The center pulley system had to be slightly modified. I used the TA04 plastic pulley system and flipped the gears around and re-shimmed. Had to make a shim actually between the (2) gears. Very easy.

Now to make a belt tensioner for the rear belt. I'm going to start racing modified. Those rear belts are hard to come by. If anyone has some for sale or knows somewhere to have them made. Let me know. Thanks

Now to order graphite to one off a lower deck and new shock towers
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:58 AM   #3408
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I bought a used one on eBay earlier this year. Will be using it for RCGT. I purchased extra parts for it on eBay as well. I have the Worlds Replica kit and I just taped a shorty sideways on the chassis. I do have to file the chassis a little to fit a brushless motor into it.
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Started messing around with this chassis again. Discovered some cool new things.

1) tb04 or evo6 gear diff is a drop in fit. Just use a oneway gear and shim. May have to sand off a little of the graphite from the shock tower.

2) evo5 spool works better than the evo4. It moves the oneway gear more to the center. The TA06 spool will work, but lots of shimming. And may have to use 46mm dog bones

3) I've been using lipo stick packs for awhile now. I wanted to use a shorty pack. All you have to do is reverse the plastic mounts so they face inwards. It looks like it was made for shorty packs.

4) The center pulley system had to be slightly modified. I used the TA04 plastic pulley system and flipped the gears around and re-shimmed. Had to make a shim actually between the (2) gears. Very easy.

Now to make a belt tensioner for the rear belt. I'm going to start racing modified. Those rear belts are hard to come by. If anyone has some for sale or knows somewhere to have them made. Let me know. Thanks

Now to order graphite to one off a lower deck and new shock towers
That sounds great! I still have 2 or 3 knocking around including my 404. I might pop in a gear diff and have a play.

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I bought a used one on eBay earlier this year. Will be using it for RCGT. I purchased extra parts for it on eBay as well. I have the Worlds Replica kit and I just taped a shorty sideways on the chassis. I do have to file the chassis a little to fit a brushless motor into it.
Its been a while since I last ran mine, but I was able to fit brushless, you can usually just use a spacer to move out the motor to help it fit, I did not have to file it down.

I still think the centre layout is cool for TC, shorty lipo, low profile shocks etc and it would be great to see
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Old 06-20-2014, 03:37 PM   #3410
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I bought a used one on eBay earlier this year. Will be using it for RCGT. I purchased extra parts for it on eBay as well. I have the Worlds Replica kit and I just taped a shorty sideways on the chassis. I do have to file the chassis a little to fit a brushless motor into it.
Space out the motor mount and your good to go. Find a TA04 center shaft and you can center the motor. Mine is dead centered.
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Old 08-21-2014, 06:19 PM   #3411
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Hello Juan, I managed to pick up a 414M and was wondering if you could post some pictures of your 414M setup.

If you don't mind, could you post the part numbers used for modernizing the 414M.
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I'm looking forward to racing this chassis.
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:33 PM   #3412
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Will Tamiya OP.794 TB-02 & TA04 lightweight reversible suspension set work on the 414M?
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Old 08-26-2014, 08:25 AM   #3413
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Here's a snap shot of my 414M. It came with the original bulkheads, however the bearings have fused themselves into the aluminum. I'll have to soak them in oil and tap them out some how.

Motor is perfectly balanced, I found out motor stator design can affect the balance dramatically. I switched between, MMM, D3.5, and Orca. I found the orca balanced the best and required few shims to balance out on the chassis.

I just ordered two tbo4 gear differentials for the front and rear. The front will have 2.5 million and rear 2,000.

The next change will be the suspension arms and sway bar setup and I think that will be it.
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Will Tamiya OP.794 TB-02 & TA04 lightweight reversible suspension set work on the 414M?
Yes, I will check but I am pretty sure that the 418 arms will also fit. Also hte bearings are in he bulkheads from new, I dont know if they can be removed.

Btw, did you use the TA04 centre shaft on your 414 above?
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Ed you should be able to use a punch and knock those bearings out. Had to do that on my evo V ms after the outer race warped creating an interference fit. It will destroy the bearings but sounds like they are pooh anyways.
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The center shaft from my understanding is the kit axle. I only had to shim the motor so far because the motors weight balance is pinion side heavy.

This is a common trait with Tekin Gen 2 and Orca motors. As for other motors, you would have to shim the motor plate out a lot to achieve a perfect balance. Lucky for me I have both an Orca and Tekin Gen 2 .


I'm opting for earlier suspension design because the 418 has some serious reliability issues i.e caster blocks breaking. I very well might stick to the suspension kit mentioned earlier.
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Those bulk heads are actually the light weight version. Not kit. The TA04 gear diffs are very bad. Car will handle poorly. Use TB04/ Evo6 gear diffs and mount the 414 oneway pulleys on them. Very slight modification to get the gear on. Almost a direct fit. If you wish to run the 418 arms. But not the 418 caster blocks. You can run 418 arms and 417 caster blocks together. Everything is interchangeable. You can install a 418 steering system on it as well. May want to drill (2) new holes in the chassis to make the steering mounts closer to the servo
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Managed to convert my 414M over to a lipo, brushless setup. Gear differentials front 2.5 million and 1300 rear. I'm running a 2 cell 1 cell sized lipo meant for 1/12, this allows me to move the battery position forward or back.

So far it's looking good, and I can't wait to get it on the race track.

However, I need to find the proper sway bar setup for the front. I'm running the lightweight arms, so I'm guessing I'll have to get the sway bars to match them.
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Front end with perfect belt alignment
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