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Old 11-04-2008, 02:17 PM   #3226
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Old 11-04-2008, 04:18 PM   #3227
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what I have installed in mine are the silver or maybe white blocks and they only have a dot on the center. I'll take a picture if I can.
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what I have installed in mine are the silver or maybe white blocks and they only have a dot on the center. I'll take a picture if I can.
the oe blocks on the M2 were all brushed finish silver.... and the same width. obviously the rear block on the front end has the notch for belt clearance.

using those, your car would be very similar to the setup i posted except with my blocks, i added .5 of rear toe.

oh yea, and the roll center difference... ill measure and see the exact difference later.
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Old 11-04-2008, 04:35 PM   #3229
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Evo blocks place the hinge pin 2mm higher than 414 blocks, and 415/416 blocks are right in between.

The blocks with one dot mean they are B blocks, no dot means A, two dots are C and three dots D. The 414M kits came with a spare B block, but not the M2.

The WCR had a D block for a total of 3.5 rear toe per wheel (!) and C blocks were available separately.
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from my original M manual:

no dots = A (p/n 3454073)
1 dot = C(+.5) (p/n 3454075)
B is only shown as the cut out block, same measurements as A (p/n 3454073)
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Old 11-04-2008, 05:28 PM   #3231
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Damn i like this car, shouldn't sell it
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:19 PM   #3232
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so the one with the 1 dot should be in the rear/rear, is that right?
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yea, if everything else is kit, when you have the 1-dot in the rear, it will give you 2.5 toe.

measuring them on a plate and a hingepin mounted, the differences were about:

stock 414M/2 5.65mm
stock 1-series blocks 6.70mm
stock Evo series 7.31mm

this measurement is to the top of the bare hingepin... so if you wanted to duplicate the setup i have exactly and dont have the 1-xx 415 stuff, you would need to shim up the OE blocks 1mm, like mentioned above...
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:27 PM   #3234
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Looking for Sway bars, which Tamiya Chassis Sway kits would work on the 414? I have the Reverseable suspension installed w/415 blocks.
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:30 PM   #3235
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Well I think it's time for me to start on a new 'old' project!
I started on road racing with a Tamiya TA02 and got completely sucked in with my TRF414m2....
I am now presently club racing with an EVO 5 but I have never forgot about my very special TRF414m2.
I am thinking it will make a great VTA car!
Here's a picture of where I have started!
I see in your pic that the motor mount is space off of rear bulkhead? Would like to know a little more about this.
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Old 11-07-2008, 04:58 AM   #3236
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anybody knows the part # for the TA04 top shaft?
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the part # for the TA04 shaft is 3455500...

the spacing for the motormount plate is twofold: one- the brushless motor will fit without grinding on the chassis, and two- centers it in the chassis for balance better.

on my 13.5 car, i am running the stock shaft, moved the spur holder over as far as i could, spaced the mount plate 2mm, works fine without the 04 shaft. the motor isnt perfectly centered, but its pretty close.

im building another car for VTA, and used an 04 shaft, with it i can space over farther, but my experience tells me this will be a recipe for stripped spurs...

Dave, i think the front sways are the same as 1st get 415, info here:

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/rcp...art_id=9805738

rears match up with the old TA04 TRF:

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/rcp...art_id=9805737

good thing is, they are still available new. on the rear, i think i have used about any of the 414-415 bars. some might be long, but will work.
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my latest mod is for the 13.5 car. got one of those stainless PPD Lipo weight plates, cut it in 1/2, and going to use it in this car.

to do this, you have to elongate the battery slots a bit, as the plate is made for the more modern chassis that were cut for 3800+ sized cells. it doesnt take much, but just so you know.

im going to tape my lipo to it, then use battery tape for it in the chassis... looked pretty decent on my mock up last night. plus, keeps the lipo from moving around in the tape.

although, the VTA car im going to use the original stick pack battery holder and my 3200 Orion lipo fits perfect! and the SMC 4000 would as well, but i think i only have 2 chassis plates that havent had the ears cut out for cells. the other one is on the built but never ran 414M, so itll prolly stay that way.

ill try to get a pic or two on later this eve...
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:08 AM   #3239
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please do pos some pics, esp. motor mount.wht's the biggest spur that you can install on it? (64 pitch). Also if you have any MODS on how to put a fan (facing motor) TY

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everyone should post some pics of their rides, These cars are fantastic!
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