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Old 01-10-2003, 03:45 PM   #1876
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Anyone know what those last three items are about?

( if TRF wins the worlds again with these parts... we'll have yet another special memorial edition. But there might not be a place to put the serial number [X/1500] this time around)
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Old 01-10-2003, 04:03 PM   #1877
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OMG...

Just checked Tamiya Japan's website. The new carbon bits are SSG. That's right, baby: silver!

tears in advance... for my wallet.
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Old 01-10-2003, 06:05 PM   #1878
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jwwu - Could you post a link to the new parts on tamiya japan's site. My japanese is a little rusty and I can't seem to find them. Thanks.
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Old 01-10-2003, 09:29 PM   #1879
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http://www.tamiya.com/japan/news/news0302/news5.htm

Light weight bulkheads, aluminium

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/news/news0302/news6.htm

the SSG parts

Darn, those parts are swweeeettttt..... they're making a Yokomo diehard like me have second thots...
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Old 01-10-2003, 11:28 PM   #1881
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Ohhhhh, they are so sweet.....
Now where is my credit card.....
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Old 01-10-2003, 11:29 PM   #1882
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Judging from the release of those parts, Tamiya may release another TRF414 series car to include all those bits.....
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do you guys not run a minimum weight for your cars ?

I can,t see the point in the new parts myself as my car as std. is so far under the minimum weight it,s silly anyway like 300 grams

I have got the worlds edition but it,s not that different to a std 414m2 looking at the pics really ......... is it ?
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Dam those new bits look so cool i have to have them now! Rick
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Old 01-11-2003, 10:32 PM   #1885
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The WCR has all titanium and aluminum bits. It has none of the heavy hardware the standard M2 has. So if you think your car is underweight, you'll appreciate how crazy light a WCR is. To go even further, the new aluminum bulkheads and accessories for the 414 will make a WCR or lightweight 414 become featherweight. I thought mine was light and then I looked at Jun's car without ballast and all I can say is "it's feels like a pan car but with 4-wheel drive!" In any event, these new parts are worth looking into if your racing with no weight minimums
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c1 c2 hubs ..
i need some explanation on how these hubs effects handling ...
i did some testing and found out that with c2 on the right (manual settings) the car seems faster but it feels more nervous

and if i swap them over i find it less nervous but stright line speeds seems to be suffering ...
is it me or does switching it over c2 to left reallly scrubs speed
still cannot figure it out ...

thanks
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Just my two cents worth :
Race cars are always built to be as light weight as possible, even with minimum weight limits. Why? Simple, weight or ballast distribution is a tuning tool for a car's behaviour.
You always want to get away with as light car so that the weight you add on it is where YOU want it, usually as low and as central as possible : )
That happens in Formula One
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AS you rightly say being able to add weight where you want it is a nice tunning tool !

Unfortunatly the 414 has very little spare space around it to ballast the car should it be needed

I,ll post a pic on mine sometime and i,m sure you,ll be able to see i,ve had to try very hard to make my car meet the miminum (uk)weight limit.To the point that i,ve had the front and rear blocks made in brass

New parts look the dogs bollocks tho i must admit and if there was no minimum weight i,d be right on the phine for them
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Merciless : Hah..... I know what you mean, I have several friends who are using the 414.... hmm strange enough, I haven't heard much about them not meeting min weight Cheapo hippo equipment perhaps hahahahah
I am using a Yokomo MR4SP.. trust me, weight saving is always on my mind
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c1 c2 hubs ..
i need some explanation on how these hubs effects handling ...
i did some testing and found out that with c2 on the right (manual settings) the car seems faster but it feels more nervous

and if i swap them over i find it less nervous but stright line speeds seems to be suffering ...
is it me or does switching it over c2 to left reallly scrubs speed
still cannot figure it out ...

thanks
Someone posted information on this before. I think it was even this thread. I looked but couldn't find it. Swapping the hubs (c2 on left) will result in more steering. I tried this on my m2 and found I had too much steering, resulting in a loose or tight condition on turn in depending on the track & turn. In general it just made the steering less predictable.

Anyone else tried it and get better results??
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