Tekin RS ESC sensored
09-28-2009, 07:56 PM
#7201
boost
Good advice! I think this is a common misconception. Adding timing is adding revs, but reducing torque. If you add the revs too soon, the torque is lost and the motor cannot gain speed - it will bog down and not spool up smoothly.
If you find that the turbo kicks in late, then reduce the boost. As I understand it, and have experienced it, the motor adds a fixed amount of timing throughout the rev range, starting at zero revs. Use this to increase acceleration off the turns.
Next, the boost comes in, at some point in the rev range, and adds a bit more timing. This always seems to work fine, and I have not had any hesitation during acceleration.
Next, the turbo comes in. This adds yet more timing, but it comes in after a time delay, not at a certain amount of rpm. If the motor has not finished spooling up using the boost, then the turbo just adds in more timing, reducing the torque, and the motor cannot spool up smoothly - it just bogs down.
Already on here the best advice has been given. Randy said to sort out your motor timing, boost and gearing first, and then add in turbo a bit at a time. Maximum 'attack' on the boost and turbo at the same time will cause more problems than it solves.
Cyanyde then won a T shirt from Randy for this quote:
"If you feel the turbo is coming in late on the straights, it may be that the
delay is set to come in too soon, causing the motor to lose torque and
unable to use the extra timing until it reaches a certain speed. Experiment
by turning off turbo first, then see how long the car takes to reach top
speed without the turbo. Use that time as the turbo delay. You wanna
make use of all the available torque without the turbo first. This will give
you optimum acceleration."
It's clear that when finding settings, you need to do motor timing, gearing and boost first, then make with the turbo settings last. HTH
If you find that the turbo kicks in late, then reduce the boost. As I understand it, and have experienced it, the motor adds a fixed amount of timing throughout the rev range, starting at zero revs. Use this to increase acceleration off the turns.
Next, the boost comes in, at some point in the rev range, and adds a bit more timing. This always seems to work fine, and I have not had any hesitation during acceleration.
Next, the turbo comes in. This adds yet more timing, but it comes in after a time delay, not at a certain amount of rpm. If the motor has not finished spooling up using the boost, then the turbo just adds in more timing, reducing the torque, and the motor cannot spool up smoothly - it just bogs down.
Already on here the best advice has been given. Randy said to sort out your motor timing, boost and gearing first, and then add in turbo a bit at a time. Maximum 'attack' on the boost and turbo at the same time will cause more problems than it solves.
Cyanyde then won a T shirt from Randy for this quote:
"If you feel the turbo is coming in late on the straights, it may be that the
delay is set to come in too soon, causing the motor to lose torque and
unable to use the extra timing until it reaches a certain speed. Experiment
by turning off turbo first, then see how long the car takes to reach top
speed without the turbo. Use that time as the turbo delay. You wanna
make use of all the available torque without the turbo first. This will give
you optimum acceleration."
It's clear that when finding settings, you need to do motor timing, gearing and boost first, then make with the turbo settings last. HTH
09-28-2009, 08:15 PM
#7202
Good advice! I think this is a common misconception. Adding timing is adding revs, but reducing torque. If you add the revs too soon, the torque is lost and the motor cannot gain speed - it will bog down and not spool up smoothly.
If you find that the turbo kicks in late, then reduce the boost. As I understand it, and have experienced it, the motor adds a fixed amount of timing throughout the rev range, starting at zero revs. Use this to increase acceleration off the turns.
Next, the boost comes in, at some point in the rev range, and adds a bit more timing. This always seems to work fine, and I have not had any hesitation during acceleration.
Next, the turbo comes in. This adds yet more timing, but it comes in after a time delay, not at a certain amount of rpm. If the motor has not finished spooling up using the boost, then the turbo just adds in more timing, reducing the torque, and the motor cannot spool up smoothly - it just bogs down.
Already on here the best advice has been given. Randy said to sort out your motor timing, boost and gearing first, and then add in turbo a bit at a time. Maximum 'attack' on the boost and turbo at the same time will cause more problems than it solves.
Cyanyde then won a T shirt from Randy for this quote:
"If you feel the turbo is coming in late on the straights, it may be that the
delay is set to come in too soon, causing the motor to lose torque and
unable to use the extra timing until it reaches a certain speed. Experiment
by turning off turbo first, then see how long the car takes to reach top
speed without the turbo. Use that time as the turbo delay. You wanna
make use of all the available torque without the turbo first. This will give
you optimum acceleration."
It's clear that when finding settings, you need to do motor timing, gearing and boost first, then make with the turbo settings last. HTH
If you find that the turbo kicks in late, then reduce the boost. As I understand it, and have experienced it, the motor adds a fixed amount of timing throughout the rev range, starting at zero revs. Use this to increase acceleration off the turns.
Next, the boost comes in, at some point in the rev range, and adds a bit more timing. This always seems to work fine, and I have not had any hesitation during acceleration.
Next, the turbo comes in. This adds yet more timing, but it comes in after a time delay, not at a certain amount of rpm. If the motor has not finished spooling up using the boost, then the turbo just adds in more timing, reducing the torque, and the motor cannot spool up smoothly - it just bogs down.
Already on here the best advice has been given. Randy said to sort out your motor timing, boost and gearing first, and then add in turbo a bit at a time. Maximum 'attack' on the boost and turbo at the same time will cause more problems than it solves.
Cyanyde then won a T shirt from Randy for this quote:
"If you feel the turbo is coming in late on the straights, it may be that the
delay is set to come in too soon, causing the motor to lose torque and
unable to use the extra timing until it reaches a certain speed. Experiment
by turning off turbo first, then see how long the car takes to reach top
speed without the turbo. Use that time as the turbo delay. You wanna
make use of all the available torque without the turbo first. This will give
you optimum acceleration."
It's clear that when finding settings, you need to do motor timing, gearing and boost first, then make with the turbo settings last. HTH
09-29-2009, 05:48 AM
#7203
09-29-2009, 06:34 AM
#7204
This reminds me of Nigel of Spinal Tap and his Marshal amp that goes to 11, so if he's playing at 10 and he needs just a little bit more he can crank it up, just a little more.
It isn't optimized cranked up. But the light and smoke show will be spectacular.
09-29-2009, 02:23 PM
#7205
v200 software
would like to run 1c lipo & 10.5BL @ the weekend if software is available
anyone able to help?
would like to run 1c lipo & 10.5BL @ the weekend if software is available
anyone able to help?
09-29-2009, 06:46 PM
#7207
I've had my 13.5 Ballistic for a little over a month now and am quite happy with it. I run a RS (not Pro) and am just as fast as any other combination out there. I gear in the 5.4 - 5.7 range, Boost 15 to Max, turbo 15 to max, delay .5 (this is all I've tried), motor timing +5deg.
09-30-2009, 03:28 AM
#7210
Many people moves from Tekin to GM here in Uk...
is there any software update in near future for Rs???
cheers
is there any software update in near future for Rs???
cheers
09-30-2009, 03:31 AM
#7211
Tech Master
many change from GM to Tekin because the GM is to hard to adjust and the speed is the same.
On some tracks they have a higher top speed but they loose it all in the infield.
Don't forget indoor time has come!!
09-30-2009, 07:10 AM
#7213
They think gm is a bit better out of corners etc.
I'm happy with my Tekin rs pro but even top Uk driver x-national champ R. Copsey looking forward to move GM ...
and many more uk drivers thinks about to move ..:
I'm happy with my Tekin rs pro but even top Uk driver x-national champ R. Copsey looking forward to move GM ...
and many more uk drivers thinks about to move ..:
09-30-2009, 07:19 AM
#7215
