Tekin RS ESC sensored
#2671
Guest
#2673
Hello, All these guys giving info on the RS Pro and no one has any input on this quote from the other day.Thanks Ron H,
#2674
Ron,
Without the hotwire your adjustabilty will be limited. However for the 4.5 try this setup:
NW 2 led's
BS 6 led
TP 3
PC 6 led
There is some new software since the RS release. If you have a chance to meet up with a team driver or purchase a Hotwire get the new software.
Anyone looking for the 189 software must email me your locaiton of where you live or race.
Without the hotwire your adjustabilty will be limited. However for the 4.5 try this setup:
NW 2 led's
BS 6 led
TP 3
PC 6 led
There is some new software since the RS release. If you have a chance to meet up with a team driver or purchase a Hotwire get the new software.
Anyone looking for the 189 software must email me your locaiton of where you live or race.
#2675
Tech Master
iTrader: (95)
RS Pro + 5.5 heat tuning help
I just got an RS Pro and Redline 5.5 for my 4wd buggy. I'm trying to tone down the 5.5 to make it more driveable for a particular track.
I'm running the motor with 0 physical timing, and on the RS Pro I am using sensored mode with 0 power boost and current limit set to 85.
The motor is toned down nicely and is very driveable, but the ESC seems to get a little hot - 160 - 170 after about 5-7 minutes. The motor is temping at 140 - 150 for the same timeframe. Gearing on the motor is 11.05. (84 / 19)
Anything setting I can adjust that won't generate as much heat in the ESC?
Would adding physical timing on the motor change the heat issue on the ESC? (I'm going to try this at practice on Tuesday)
Does using a current limit cause more heat in the ESC?
Would using "dual mode" be gentler on the ESC?
Using a 7.5 or 8.5 is better suited to this track, but I've got the 5.5 at the moment and that is what I am working with.
Any info is appreciated.
thx
I'm running the motor with 0 physical timing, and on the RS Pro I am using sensored mode with 0 power boost and current limit set to 85.
The motor is toned down nicely and is very driveable, but the ESC seems to get a little hot - 160 - 170 after about 5-7 minutes. The motor is temping at 140 - 150 for the same timeframe. Gearing on the motor is 11.05. (84 / 19)
Anything setting I can adjust that won't generate as much heat in the ESC?
Would adding physical timing on the motor change the heat issue on the ESC? (I'm going to try this at practice on Tuesday)
Does using a current limit cause more heat in the ESC?
Would using "dual mode" be gentler on the ESC?
Using a 7.5 or 8.5 is better suited to this track, but I've got the 5.5 at the moment and that is what I am working with.
Any info is appreciated.
thx
#2677
Guest
Hi,
Just upgraded the ESC to 189. Really easy to perform. Good point.
I'm mounting this ESC with a 6.5T Brushless Tekin motor (Tekin addict!).
I plan to go with a 21T pinion on my spur gear 48 / 84 that will give me a FDR of 6.80 (but still hesitating to put a 19T pinion that will give me a FDR of 7.52). 2S 3800 35C will power up this baby.
I will run rubber tyres on asphalt (and maybe foam for much grip) on a Xray T2 009. I'll drive that with a Spektrum DX3S with a temperature sensor on the motor (and also RPM sensor but that's tricky to install!)
Now let's talk about the Tekin configuration I was thinking of:
- Sensored : not ticked
- Dual Mode : ticked
I heard that dual mode was the way to go. I will run a sensored motor; just wondering if sensored only is no a better choice or give me better performance.
Other settings
- Drag Brake : Off
- Reverse speed : 100
- Brake strength : 100
- Neutral width : 56
- Motor type : BL-F/RV - FWD/BRK/IMMED REVERSE
- Throttle Profile : 3 - Linear
- Voltage cut-off : 2 - 2S Lipo 6V
- Push control : Off
- Timing Advance : 78
- Current Limit : Off
Is it good values to start with ? what do I have to adjust at the track ?
Thanks a lot, help is much appreciated.
Cédric
Just upgraded the ESC to 189. Really easy to perform. Good point.
I'm mounting this ESC with a 6.5T Brushless Tekin motor (Tekin addict!).
I plan to go with a 21T pinion on my spur gear 48 / 84 that will give me a FDR of 6.80 (but still hesitating to put a 19T pinion that will give me a FDR of 7.52). 2S 3800 35C will power up this baby.
I will run rubber tyres on asphalt (and maybe foam for much grip) on a Xray T2 009. I'll drive that with a Spektrum DX3S with a temperature sensor on the motor (and also RPM sensor but that's tricky to install!)
Now let's talk about the Tekin configuration I was thinking of:
- Sensored : not ticked
- Dual Mode : ticked
I heard that dual mode was the way to go. I will run a sensored motor; just wondering if sensored only is no a better choice or give me better performance.
Other settings
- Drag Brake : Off
- Reverse speed : 100
- Brake strength : 100
- Neutral width : 56
- Motor type : BL-F/RV - FWD/BRK/IMMED REVERSE
- Throttle Profile : 3 - Linear
- Voltage cut-off : 2 - 2S Lipo 6V
- Push control : Off
- Timing Advance : 78
- Current Limit : Off
Is it good values to start with ? what do I have to adjust at the track ?
Thanks a lot, help is much appreciated.
Cédric
#2678
Hi,
Just upgraded the ESC to 189. Really easy to perform. Good point.
I'm mounting this ESC with a 6.5T Brushless Tekin motor (Tekin addict!).
I plan to go with a 21T pinion on my spur gear 48 / 84 that will give me a FDR of 6.80 (but still hesitating to put a 19T pinion that will give me a FDR of 7.52). 2S 3800 35C will power up this baby.
I will run rubber tyres on asphalt (and maybe foam for much grip) on a Xray T2 009. I'll drive that with a Spektrum DX3S with a temperature sensor on the motor (and also RPM sensor but that's tricky to install!)
Now let's talk about the Tekin configuration I was thinking of:
- Sensored : not ticked
- Dual Mode : ticked
I heard that dual mode was the way to go. I will run a sensored motor; just wondering if sensored only is no a better choice or give me better performance.
Other settings
- Drag Brake : Off
- Reverse speed : 100
- Brake strength : 100
- Neutral width : 56
- Motor type : BL-F/RV - FWD/BRK/IMMED REVERSE
- Throttle Profile : 3 - Linear
- Voltage cut-off : 2 - 2S Lipo 6V
- Push control : Off
- Timing Advance : 78
- Current Limit : Off
Is it good values to start with ? what do I have to adjust at the track ?
Thanks a lot, help is much appreciated.
Cédric
Just upgraded the ESC to 189. Really easy to perform. Good point.
I'm mounting this ESC with a 6.5T Brushless Tekin motor (Tekin addict!).
I plan to go with a 21T pinion on my spur gear 48 / 84 that will give me a FDR of 6.80 (but still hesitating to put a 19T pinion that will give me a FDR of 7.52). 2S 3800 35C will power up this baby.
I will run rubber tyres on asphalt (and maybe foam for much grip) on a Xray T2 009. I'll drive that with a Spektrum DX3S with a temperature sensor on the motor (and also RPM sensor but that's tricky to install!)
Now let's talk about the Tekin configuration I was thinking of:
- Sensored : not ticked
- Dual Mode : ticked
I heard that dual mode was the way to go. I will run a sensored motor; just wondering if sensored only is no a better choice or give me better performance.
Other settings
- Drag Brake : Off
- Reverse speed : 100
- Brake strength : 100
- Neutral width : 56
- Motor type : BL-F/RV - FWD/BRK/IMMED REVERSE
- Throttle Profile : 3 - Linear
- Voltage cut-off : 2 - 2S Lipo 6V
- Push control : Off
- Timing Advance : 78
- Current Limit : Off
Is it good values to start with ? what do I have to adjust at the track ?
Thanks a lot, help is much appreciated.
Cédric
#2679
Guest
I'm running on asphalt with rubbert tyres/foam tyres; 1/10 car and the recommended FDR for 6.5T motors by Novak is average FDR : 7
Should I go to a FDR of 4.5 / 5 ?
I don't really get it.
Cédric
Should I go to a FDR of 4.5 / 5 ?
I don't really get it.
Cédric
#2680
I just got an RS Pro and Redline 5.5 for my 4wd buggy. I'm trying to tone down the 5.5 to make it more driveable for a particular track.
I'm running the motor with 0 physical timing, and on the RS Pro I am using sensored mode with 0 power boost and current limit set to 85.
The motor is toned down nicely and is very driveable, but the ESC seems to get a little hot - 160 - 170 after about 5-7 minutes. The motor is temping at 140 - 150 for the same timeframe. Gearing on the motor is 11.05. (84 / 19)
Anything setting I can adjust that won't generate as much heat in the ESC?
Would adding physical timing on the motor change the heat issue on the ESC? (I'm going to try this at practice on Tuesday)
Does using a current limit cause more heat in the ESC?
Would using "dual mode" be gentler on the ESC?
Using a 7.5 or 8.5 is better suited to this track, but I've got the 5.5 at the moment and that is what I am working with.
Any info is appreciated.
thx
I'm running the motor with 0 physical timing, and on the RS Pro I am using sensored mode with 0 power boost and current limit set to 85.
The motor is toned down nicely and is very driveable, but the ESC seems to get a little hot - 160 - 170 after about 5-7 minutes. The motor is temping at 140 - 150 for the same timeframe. Gearing on the motor is 11.05. (84 / 19)
Anything setting I can adjust that won't generate as much heat in the ESC?
Would adding physical timing on the motor change the heat issue on the ESC? (I'm going to try this at practice on Tuesday)
Does using a current limit cause more heat in the ESC?
Would using "dual mode" be gentler on the ESC?
Using a 7.5 or 8.5 is better suited to this track, but I've got the 5.5 at the moment and that is what I am working with.
Any info is appreciated.
thx
There isn't a lot of air circulation in a buggy which doesnt help with heat soak, so a fan would probably do more harm than good, but might also be worth a try.
That's all I can think of, but maybe others have a few shots to put out there for you
#2681
Tech Regular
I havent upgraded to 189 yet, it's still in 180. I wish that i can change the setting through hotwire to check from inside what actually went wrong. Unfortunately for me, the hotwire wont talk to the ESC and the light is even dimmer.
#2682
I just got an RS Pro and Redline 5.5 for my 4wd buggy. I'm trying to tone down the 5.5 to make it more driveable for a particular track.
I'm running the motor with 0 physical timing, and on the RS Pro I am using sensored mode with 0 power boost and current limit set to 85.
The motor is toned down nicely and is very driveable, but the ESC seems to get a little hot - 160 - 170 after about 5-7 minutes. The motor is temping at 140 - 150 for the same timeframe. Gearing on the motor is 11.05. (84 / 19)
Anything setting I can adjust that won't generate as much heat in the ESC?
Would adding physical timing on the motor change the heat issue on the ESC? (I'm going to try this at practice on Tuesday)
Does using a current limit cause more heat in the ESC?
Would using "dual mode" be gentler on the ESC?
Using a 7.5 or 8.5 is better suited to this track, but I've got the 5.5 at the moment and that is what I am working with.
Any info is appreciated.
thx
I'm running the motor with 0 physical timing, and on the RS Pro I am using sensored mode with 0 power boost and current limit set to 85.
The motor is toned down nicely and is very driveable, but the ESC seems to get a little hot - 160 - 170 after about 5-7 minutes. The motor is temping at 140 - 150 for the same timeframe. Gearing on the motor is 11.05. (84 / 19)
Anything setting I can adjust that won't generate as much heat in the ESC?
Would adding physical timing on the motor change the heat issue on the ESC? (I'm going to try this at practice on Tuesday)
Does using a current limit cause more heat in the ESC?
Would using "dual mode" be gentler on the ESC?
Using a 7.5 or 8.5 is better suited to this track, but I've got the 5.5 at the moment and that is what I am working with.
Any info is appreciated.
thx
#2683
I would try removing the hotwire software from your PC and trying again, ideally with Version 189 as a first option
#2684
Tech Adept
iTrader: (1)
I just got an RS Pro and Redline 5.5 for my 4wd buggy. I'm trying to tone down the 5.5 to make it more driveable for a particular track.
I'm running the motor with 0 physical timing, and on the RS Pro I am using sensored mode with 0 power boost and current limit set to 85.
The motor is toned down nicely and is very driveable, but the ESC seems to get a little hot - 160 - 170 after about 5-7 minutes. The motor is temping at 140 - 150 for the same timeframe. Gearing on the motor is 11.05. (84 / 19)
Anything setting I can adjust that won't generate as much heat in the ESC?
Would adding physical timing on the motor change the heat issue on the ESC? (I'm going to try this at practice on Tuesday)
Does using a current limit cause more heat in the ESC?
Would using "dual mode" be gentler on the ESC?
Using a 7.5 or 8.5 is better suited to this track, but I've got the 5.5 at the moment and that is what I am working with.
Any info is appreciated.
thx
I'm running the motor with 0 physical timing, and on the RS Pro I am using sensored mode with 0 power boost and current limit set to 85.
The motor is toned down nicely and is very driveable, but the ESC seems to get a little hot - 160 - 170 after about 5-7 minutes. The motor is temping at 140 - 150 for the same timeframe. Gearing on the motor is 11.05. (84 / 19)
Anything setting I can adjust that won't generate as much heat in the ESC?
Would adding physical timing on the motor change the heat issue on the ESC? (I'm going to try this at practice on Tuesday)
Does using a current limit cause more heat in the ESC?
Would using "dual mode" be gentler on the ESC?
Using a 7.5 or 8.5 is better suited to this track, but I've got the 5.5 at the moment and that is what I am working with.
Any info is appreciated.
thx
I found that running in dual mode is better for lower turn motors than sensored only. motor timing was left at the factory setting, Esc timing at the recommended 12* in dual mode pinion is a 16 tooth (I started low with the intention of going higher but speed is very good compared to the other cars down the straight, so I left it as is). I did add a 30x30mm fan to blow on the posts as the last motor & esc (GTB & vortex 6.5t) got very hot & thermaled on me, however that was w/o a fan.
The way it is now the motor & esc are under 50*C (I don't know the exact *F equivalent but I think it's 120 give or take a few deg).
#2685
If you're running mods like the 5.5 and 6.5 you shoud be in Dual mode.
This this setup:
This this setup: