Tekin RS ESC sensored
05-03-2010, 07:02 PM
how much motor timing
05-03-2010, 07:04 PM
05-03-2010, 07:09 PM
dont know the full setup but one of the fastest cars at our track is a 17.5 ballistic and he is geared at a 5.0 fdr while most of us are geared 6.0-7.0 with other motors. Decent sized outdoor track.
05-03-2010, 07:23 PM
i would move the start up to around 4-5k with the 0delay and 1k start it may be bogging down
05-03-2010, 07:30 PM
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Hello
Is any one running the LRP x12 10.5 and if so what are your setting to keep it cool.
Mine was coming of at 199F and not as fast as the tekin.
Is it better in sensorless mode.
Steven
Is any one running the LRP x12 10.5 and if so what are your setting to keep it cool.
Mine was coming of at 199F and not as fast as the tekin.
Is it better in sensorless mode.
Steven
05-03-2010, 07:46 PM
05-03-2010, 08:01 PM
I would suggest in TC never starting any motor below 3-4k start.
It seems the wider I make the range the more power the motor makes. Up to a point obviously but it also smooths out the power band also.
It seems the wider I make the range the more power the motor makes. Up to a point obviously but it also smooths out the power band also.
05-03-2010, 09:36 PM
Turbo boost - 15
Timing insert - 3 dot (-5 degree)
Start rpm - 13500
End rpm - 24000
Turbo delay - 0.2
Turbo ramp - 2
Brake strength - 85 (had to balance motor temps with brakes)
Push control - 10
Drag brake - 0
Fdr - 6.995
Track - 240m length, approx 55m straight, asphalt (rubber tyre)
Motor cooling - none
Temps - 95C to 99C
Fastest lap time - 0.082s off the lap record
Chassis - Xray T3
IMHO, to go faster on that track without more heat i would need a cooling fan/heatsink solution...
With cooling I would be able to push up the turbo a couple more notches for super boosto!™ on the straight
-Mark
05-03-2010, 10:01 PM
Loving my RS thanks Tekin again!! Still have confidence youll get the RX8 figured out. Im a loyal Tekin customer!! Had a great time running the pro in my B44 last night! Turbo was fun on the long straight!!
05-04-2010, 02:17 AM
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Motor timing - 35
Turbo boost - 15
Timing insert - 3 dot (-5 degree)
Start rpm - 13500
End rpm - 24000
Turbo delay - 0.2
Turbo ramp - 2
Brake strength - 85 (had to balance motor temps with brakes)
Push control - 10
Drag brake - 0
Fdr - 6.995
Track - 240m length, approx 55m straight, asphalt (rubber tyre)
Motor cooling - none
Temps - 95C to 99C
Fastest lap time - 0.082s off the lap record
Chassis - Xray T3
IMHO, to go faster on that track without more heat i would need a cooling fan/heatsink solution...
With cooling I would be able to push up the turbo a couple more notches for super boosto!™ on the straight
-Mark
Turbo boost - 15
Timing insert - 3 dot (-5 degree)
Start rpm - 13500
End rpm - 24000
Turbo delay - 0.2
Turbo ramp - 2
Brake strength - 85 (had to balance motor temps with brakes)
Push control - 10
Drag brake - 0
Fdr - 6.995
Track - 240m length, approx 55m straight, asphalt (rubber tyre)
Motor cooling - none
Temps - 95C to 99C
Fastest lap time - 0.082s off the lap record
Chassis - Xray T3
IMHO, to go faster on that track without more heat i would need a cooling fan/heatsink solution...
With cooling I would be able to push up the turbo a couple more notches for super boosto!™ on the straight
-Mark
these motors run hot, is that the norm.
Steven
05-04-2010, 02:44 AM
Spektrum Cap doesn't help?? omg.. just spent the day finding one.. oh well I will give it a go anyway.. Is there a way to test the Capacitor on the Tekin to see if its working correctly??
I have tried to roll back the firmware and reinstall 203.. but doesn't fix the problem.
The only thing thats left for me to do is maybe solder the wires directly to the RX motherboard. Maybe if that works I can splice in a plug for hotwire.
Or just to test run a battery for the receiver instead of the Spektrum Capacitor and disconnect the red wire from the Tekin. If this fixes it then its a brown out problem not enough power loosing bind..and a bigger cap may fix it.. instead of 420uF maybe 10V 1000uf. Doesn't leave you feeling safe and connected to the car though.
It seems people are only having issues with the Spektrums.. maybe I should change modules.
Cheers
I have tried to roll back the firmware and reinstall 203.. but doesn't fix the problem.
The only thing thats left for me to do is maybe solder the wires directly to the RX motherboard. Maybe if that works I can splice in a plug for hotwire.
Or just to test run a battery for the receiver instead of the Spektrum Capacitor and disconnect the red wire from the Tekin. If this fixes it then its a brown out problem not enough power loosing bind..and a bigger cap may fix it.. instead of 420uF maybe 10V 1000uf. Doesn't leave you feeling safe and connected to the car though.
It seems people are only having issues with the Spektrums.. maybe I should change modules.
Cheers
I have had exactly the same issues, which reoccurred today.
Had few times when the throttle just stopped and a few runaways, the next round it was fine.
Fine for a few runs, then one horrific round then fine again.
Have tried a Spektrum cap but it made no difference, also tried resetting the ESC. Only thing I haven't tried is going back to earlier firmware the updating again.
Could a loose signal wire cause something like the above?
Its the SR3500 receiver with a Spektrum module in a Futaba 3VC with KO PDS-2413 servo.
Skiddins
Had few times when the throttle just stopped and a few runaways, the next round it was fine.
Fine for a few runs, then one horrific round then fine again.
Have tried a Spektrum cap but it made no difference, also tried resetting the ESC. Only thing I haven't tried is going back to earlier firmware the updating again.
Could a loose signal wire cause something like the above?
Its the SR3500 receiver with a Spektrum module in a Futaba 3VC with KO PDS-2413 servo.
Skiddins
05-04-2010, 02:55 AM
Spektrum Cap doesn't help?? omg.. just spent the day finding one.. oh well I will give it a go anyway.. Is there a way to test the Capacitor on the Tekin to see if its working correctly??
I have tried to roll back the firmware and reinstall 203.. but doesn't fix the problem.
The only thing thats left for me to do is maybe solder the wires directly to the RX motherboard. Maybe if that works I can splice in a plug for hotwire.
Or just to test run a battery for the receiver instead of the Spektrum Capacitor and disconnect the red wire from the Tekin. If this fixes it then its a brown out problem not enough power loosing bind..and a bigger cap may fix it.. instead of 420uF maybe 10V 1000uf. Doesn't leave you feeling safe and connected to the car though.
It seems people are only having issues with the Spektrums.. maybe I should change modules.
Cheers
I have tried to roll back the firmware and reinstall 203.. but doesn't fix the problem.
The only thing thats left for me to do is maybe solder the wires directly to the RX motherboard. Maybe if that works I can splice in a plug for hotwire.
Or just to test run a battery for the receiver instead of the Spektrum Capacitor and disconnect the red wire from the Tekin. If this fixes it then its a brown out problem not enough power loosing bind..and a bigger cap may fix it.. instead of 420uF maybe 10V 1000uf. Doesn't leave you feeling safe and connected to the car though.
It seems people are only having issues with the Spektrums.. maybe I should change modules.
Cheers
I have had customers have issues with the Spektrum modules only to revert to the original FM modules and then have no issues whatsoever
05-04-2010, 03:33 AM
05-04-2010, 07:03 AM
Here's my current setup.
Full turbo
Full Boost
0 delay
Ramp 3
1000 start
18000 end
6.7 FDR
17.5 Ballistic Motor timing set to second lowest mark
I got plenty of mid and top end power, but not enough on the low side. I'd like to get a lot more rip out of the corners. I messed with my settings a lot, and always end up very close to this depending on the track I am at. I'm starting to believe my motor just doesn't have the low end grunt I am looking for. My temps very from 120-160 depending on the day and track lay out. It varies so much because we race at night here.
Any suggestions?
Full turbo
Full Boost
0 delay
Ramp 3
1000 start
18000 end
6.7 FDR
17.5 Ballistic Motor timing set to second lowest mark
I got plenty of mid and top end power, but not enough on the low side. I'd like to get a lot more rip out of the corners. I messed with my settings a lot, and always end up very close to this depending on the track I am at. I'm starting to believe my motor just doesn't have the low end grunt I am looking for. My temps very from 120-160 depending on the day and track lay out. It varies so much because we race at night here.
Any suggestions?
Increase delay to .1 or .2
Move start to 3,000 or 5,000 - try both
Moving the timing on the motor back to the central tick
Then experiment with gearing after that.
05-04-2010, 08:12 AM
If you're having DSM issues try a different servo. A failing servo can draw enough current on it's own to brown out some of the Spektrum receivers.