Tekin RS ESC sensored
01-12-2010, 01:09 PM
what pos had new 203 program for one day, with 17.5 in my losi and up in smoke it went... spoke to tekin. they said to send it back well i would but dont have time or money for this s**t every time an new program comes out. the car was very fast untill it just stopped,by the way i was running an rs...gearing was 7.3, motor temp was 159deg after 6 mins....
Please post your settings for timing boost, turbo boost, RPM range, and Turbo delay.
01-12-2010, 01:19 PM
I've got an email conversation going on with my buddies and need some clarification on Turbo Boost. Is the Turbo Boost timing activated after Turbo Delay once the trigger hits full throttle ..... OR ..... is the Turbo Boost timing activated after the Turbo Delay once End RPM has been achieved? The latter seems to make more sense and bench testing confirms that, but I read other postings that say the first is accurate.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
01-12-2010, 01:22 PM
For you Tekin Guys who unfortunately have had v203 banned from your track, I found this link from a post Bob Stormer put out a couple of years back. Maybe you can print it out and post it at your local track. If it were only as easy as downloading some software, then becoming the best racer on the planet. Doesn't work that way. Handling/Power/Driver Error all produce the race result together and unfortunately for most of us - Driver has the larger part of the margin of error in the equation.
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...on-thread.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...on-thread.html
WHAT !?!?!?!, there is Tracks in USA that does not allow a specific ESC for racing ? WOW !!!
cya
01-12-2010, 01:24 PM
01-12-2010, 01:27 PM
Turbo comes on after full throtttle is held and the set delay is reached, it is independant of boost which is set by RPM.
They can overlap.. depending on how the end user has them setup.
Hope that helps.
They can overlap.. depending on how the end user has them setup.
Hope that helps.
01-12-2010, 01:27 PM
01-12-2010, 01:30 PM
I've got an email conversation going on with my buddies and need some clarification on Turbo Boost. Is the Turbo Boost timing activated after Turbo Delay once the trigger hits full throttle ..... OR ..... is the Turbo Boost timing activated after the Turbo Delay once End RPM has been achieved? The latter seems to make more sense and bench testing confirms that, but I read other postings that say the first is accurate.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
01-12-2010, 01:49 PM
01-12-2010, 02:13 PM
01-12-2010, 02:27 PM
Randy said the delay is the delay from full throttle period. No relation to RPMs. It seemed to me the motor is adding delay because it slows down when a bunch of timing is added at once and it takes a while to spool up and kick in. So in other words even if your timing boost has not been fully expended the turbo boost may add timing on top of it. The ramp rate controls how quickly that timing is added after the delay either 2, 4 or 6 degrees per 1/10th of a second.
I guess it surprises me that Turbo Delay is between .0-1.0 and not higher. I don't think that any car can reach it's near top speed in less then a second. With that in mind, some overlap must be required for all this to work correctly. I see several guys using a .5 delay. Any track less then 80' straight shouldn't need Turbo anyway according to posts. OK!
01-12-2010, 02:38 PM
I've got an email conversation going on with my buddies and need some clarification on Turbo Boost. Is the Turbo Boost timing activated after Turbo Delay once the trigger hits full throttle ..... OR ..... is the Turbo Boost timing activated after the Turbo Delay once End RPM has been achieved? The latter seems to make more sense and bench testing confirms that, but I read other postings that say the first is accurate.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
01-12-2010, 02:49 PM
01-12-2010, 02:49 PM
ok, got the info...the track straight is approx 90-100ft, and the track surface it self is 100x50...so do you think the 6.7 is still too short for the 17.5 Redline? im going to by a 30 tooth pinion but whats another pinion to start with an compare? BTW im pushing a 106 spur gear...what motor temp is too hot and would indicate short gearing?
01-12-2010, 02:50 PM
OK, just want to prevent doing something foolish here. So it's possible to set a 0.0 Turbo Delay with Turbo Timing at max, stab it off the line and Turbo Timing will be coming in before or at the same time as the Boost Timing. This could be a real scenario either at the start or out of any 180 style corner. This sounds like a very inefficient idea, so I wont do it. I guess it surprises me that Turbo Delay is between .0-1.0 and not higher. I don't think that any car can reach it's near top speed in less then a second. With that in mind, some overlap must be required for all this to work correctly. I see several guys using a .5 delay. Any track less then 80' straight shouldn't need Turbo anyway according to posts. OK!
I guess it surprises me that Turbo Delay is between .0-1.0 and not higher. I don't think that any car can reach it's near top speed in less then a second. With that in mind, some overlap must be required for all this to work correctly. I see several guys using a .5 delay. Any track less then 80' straight shouldn't need Turbo anyway according to posts. OK!Not knowing how timing applies and having so many options when it comes to how the esc adds timing means there are that many ways to overtime and cook a motor...I sense motor sales have been increasing as of Jan 1.
01-12-2010, 02:55 PM
Tech Master
Correct! The option for 0 delay is more for a scenario like this: big outdoor track with a very fast sweeper before the straight where you can't quite grab full power, but you are very near full speed. Then once you hit the straight turbo can kick in early enough to help rip down the straight. For the most part turbo should not be needed on indoor tracks and because boost now goes to 55 degrees start and end timing should be the first thing to work with.
Not knowing how timing applies and having so many options when it comes to how the esc adds timing means there are that many ways to overtime and cook a motor...I sense motor sales have been increasing as of Jan 1.
Not knowing how timing applies and having so many options when it comes to how the esc adds timing means there are that many ways to overtime and cook a motor...I sense motor sales have been increasing as of Jan 1.
A Team driver burnt his motor when he wanted to keep up with a Tekin lol.
He was not happy.
A lot of GM drivers are selling there GM 120 with the latest firmware.
This because the GM reached his top speed with the speedo lol.
They all buy the new one or switch to Tekin
