It is smart comments like this that put the whole discussing in the wrong tone. Just because Keith asked you to get involved ,as I did, does not mean it was my grand idea.... or I am prompting him to tell you that. It is because he thinks you can do some good without
pushing new members away in the process.
I am saying that from experience, just ask Bullfrog. I busted his chops about many different ROAR things, he said, hey, if you don't like it, get involved.... so I did.
I thought we had a good chat last week ( on the phone ), and think you have some really good ideas regarding membership. We did talk about how people read too much, or not the right intent out of posts, and I genuinely thought you had good intent for ROAR. The weekend goes by and you start right back on the same path... I am not saying you should not express your concerns, I though the hatchet was buried concerning this kind of tone ..on this thread.
I am not sure, or do I care to read back what answer you are talking about, but sometimes even if the answer is "yes", or "no" , there is more to it, and by answering as such in forums such as these can be problematic. We have proved it many times, even if the answer is concise, the logic clear, and the back round explored, people still do not like the answer and beat it past death. The type of communication vehicle is a Pandora's box of sort, and is impossible to infer the same tone and expression to people with such varied back rounds and experiences.
Back to the value thing.... It has been discussed so many times. There are a great deal of costs associated with running a national club, and you acknowledge that, but at the sometime you focus on the 7 Dollars of insurance as if that is the ONLY
reason to join ROAR. Personally, I think it is more import to some, less to to others.
I know that the series that I race in, FSEARA, would not have existed for 28 years with out ROAR. The track we raced at this weekend, Daytona , Kraceway, Coral Springs, Village Raceway, all would not be able to hold races if it were not for that 7 dollars, as needing the secondary policy is the REQUIREMENT for racers to uses these facilities.
Other items, that are not so tangible, but are real values are product related. Without a baseline of rules for any given specific class, there would be chaos, and classes would die out before the market bore what the rules should be. This is a HUGE cost savings for the racer, as they would not have to be buying kit after kit to keep up . We have a version of that now in TC, but the kits are not NEEDED to participate, racers buy because they want the newest blah blah...
If you have more questions about value, as there are many more small items... please call me, you have my cell number. And if anyone else feels the need to ask questions, my cell number is on the ROAR site.
I will leave you with this... http://www.fseara.org/gallery/main.php
All of that not possible without ROAR < Especially Roly in the Sharks mouth, and Chesty getting the wing house girls digits...
Originally Posted by dodgeguy
Are you Tim's brother-in-law? I do not know who you are.
The answer to my question was not answered here on RCtech. I emailed Dawn about it. The thing I can not understand is the answer was a simple one. Yes or no. Why couldn't the official answer the question when I asked it online? It is not a secret.
I still think there are problems with ROAR. The biggest is the value for a $30 membership fee that $7 of it goes towards the insurance. Since none of the monies goes towards a National. But hey that is my opinion so I am sure some will blast me with theirs.
The other $21 is high on the admin costs of the club.