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Old 08-08-2008, 09:26 AM
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Sweet! thats 1 less outfit to pack!
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Originally Posted by John Tag
I hear Pink Jump Suits are being handed out for the Sportsman A Main drivers....
good, we'll have something to wear that way then
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Old 08-08-2008, 11:12 AM
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*sigh* Lack of knowledge for heating of lipo batteries. SMC bakes them in an oven at 180* for a temp test! The heat really gives a big performance boost to a lipos performance...People should really read, research, and do their own testing to see what happens. The battery in a mod run will hit the 130 degree mark anyways halfway through...
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warming, no warming,,, whatever. If everyone is doing the same thing, it doesn't really matter. Charge and go!
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Originally Posted by The Bear
warming, no warming,,, whatever. If everyone is doing the same thing, it doesn't really matter. Charge and go!
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Old 08-09-2008, 07:45 AM
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Good Luck everyone, I wish I could be there.

Scotty puts on a great show.
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Old 08-09-2008, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by The Bear
warming, no warming,,, whatever. If everyone is doing the same thing, it doesn't really matter. Charge and go!
yes that would be fine if everyone was running lipo, but since there will be nimh guys then its not equal, go ahead charge exploding nimh at 12 amps, but getting a lipo to perform at its best is not allowed.
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Old 08-09-2008, 01:06 PM
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Bah, go ahead and charge nimh @ 12amps. When you start to dump 4 minutes into the race and need a new pack every run..... well, I'm willing to compete with anyone using nimh using any method they want.

a pink tu-tu bet says the tc classes will be dominated by lipo.
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Old 08-09-2008, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by HenBeav
yes that would be fine if everyone was running lipo, but since there will be nimh guys then its not equal, go ahead charge exploding nimh at 12 amps, but getting a lipo to perform at its best is not allowed.
Couldnt agree more, so can i discharge the lipo before i charge it to get heat in it... No warming device
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Old 08-09-2008, 03:10 PM
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Now that lipos are going to be used in national competition, where drivers and teams are looking for the smallest of advantages, if there hasn't been already, there is going to be experimentation. People will try all sorts of different charging routines and protocals. Hopefully they will resist the urge but I think the whole idea of "experimenting" with lipos is inherently dangerous.

It maybe that their is a direct relation or corelation between those methods which provide the most performance boost and those methods which are the least likley to cause the battery to self distruct.
My guess is that it is just the opposite, it is like most other things, pushing a given component to its performance limit, will also push it to its safety limit.

You also have to factor in chance. What if charging method X gives a significant performance boost but has a 1% chance of the battery exploding like a hand grenade. Even a dozen tests of this method are not likely to reveal the real danger prior to some one(s) being hurt.

In general looking to the future I can see the need for limiting or regulating the actual charging process/parameters.
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basically restating Sobottka's comment. There is a TON of information on threads like the SMC thread where testing has already been done under safe conditions by professional people.

if in the future there are rules and reg's on charging, it will probably be based off of a Scotty Earnst Production.........
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If anyone has questions regarding the treatment of the newer lipos such as the SMC, Trakpower/Checkpoint packs, please don't hesitate to ask me if you have any questions regarding care or performance.
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Originally Posted by StephenSobottka
If anyone has questions regarding the treatment of the newer lipos such as the SMC, Trakpower/Checkpoint packs, please don't hesitate to ask me if you have any questions regarding care or performance.
how do i need to charge my SMC 4000 running 13.5 and 10.5
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Charge them at 1C. Warm them to 130F when it's legal. Done.
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Originally Posted by syndr0me
How are you Phi guys going to get around the rule that says you can't have a LiPo mounted diagonally in your car? :-D
No problem...I set all four wheels 16 degrees to the left. And the friction caused by doing that warms the lipo pack to exactly138 degrees F. Little tricky making right turns though; but, I'll get used to it.
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