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Old 12-20-2011, 10:52 PM   #3451
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MurfDogg Matt is a good dude, I test his stuff, and other stuff too.
We are always learning, and trying to apply that knowledge to improve.

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The inline car is the real deal.
What I believe to be the deal with the soft springs, is that you can run them, while the chassis remains flat thru the turns. for more mechanical grip.
You can also run the same setup as the standard 5.1, it's good to go.

In stock or boosted on our club track, I ran the same laptimes with the standard R5.1, I think there is just a limit in my ability to wheel a car only so fast, the new car is easier to drive more consistent for 8 mins.

The real benefit comes at super high grip tracks on new rug, like iic.

People busting on the inline R5 haven't driven one

imo, all the new inline chassis cars are an advantage, not so much for blinky racing, but the more power you throw down, the more it will pay off.
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Old 12-21-2011, 07:32 AM   #3454
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MurfDogg Matt is a good dude, I test his stuff, and other stuff too.
We are always learning, and trying to apply that knowledge to improve.

Tsuruda & Kelster
I haven't heard Kelster for a long time and that's probably the worst picture I've ever seen ever...

However if you look closely I was flashing the eyebrow technique

Very hard to do...

p.s. I am looking forward to seeing how your inline car is at Chino

Tsuruda has been told about the inline but said he's not interested and he bought a brand new 5.1 for the regionals

I just noticed that my top arm was at too much an angle and I think this is what has made my car unbelievably hard to drive. So I brought it down a little and hope that helps the car balance out more otherwise I'm only .05 off fastest lap time here. We've got kinda a scary layout here with a monster fast straightaway in front of the drivers stand and if you hit the end of straight corner you can launch your 12th right into the pits

I am still thinking we should do a north/south series to get the onroad guys together in Cali for 4 races two here and two there. I hope we're outdoor here

Here we actually had about 8 mod guys and 14 stock guys and I will try to keep them interested in furthering the 12th cause

Still not sure how I'm getting down there for the regionals?

Magenta/magenta for mod right?

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Old 12-21-2011, 09:15 AM   #3455
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Most or almost 12R5.1 Team Setups show 10 deg reactive caster on the upper arm mounts. What could one expect if you went to 5 deg or 0 deg's??

Not sure i understand the effect on the car's driving charistics if i change from 10deg to say 5 deg??
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Old 12-21-2011, 10:23 AM   #3456
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Still not sure how I'm getting down there for the regionals?

Magenta/magenta for mod right?
Most of us run Black Yellow lately, however if it warms up in Jan ?, who knows, Magenta x2 could be the go.
It's one or the other, good to have both.
B/Y do wear quick with a mod motor, that's just how it is.

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Most or almost 12R5.1 Team Setups show 10 deg reactive caster on the upper arm mounts. What could one expect if you went to 5 deg or 0 deg's??

Not sure i understand the effect on the car's driving charistics if i change from 10deg to say 5 deg??
Thanks for any further information
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When Kevin Hebert & I were practicing at TQ before iic this year, he told me that all last year he was running with 0 reactive, said it was smoother and he liked that setup.
I see now he is running some reac again.

Seems to be a fine tune option for more corner entry grip, more reac, more agressive.
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Old 12-21-2011, 10:50 AM   #3457
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Most of us run Black Yellow lately, however if it warms up in Jan ?, who knows, Magenta x2 could be the go.
It's one or the other, good to have both.
B/Y do wear quick with a mod motor, that's just how it is.



When Kevin Hebert & I were practicing at TQ before iic this year, he told me that all last year he was running with 0 reactive, said it was smoother and he liked that setup.
I see now he is running some reac again.

Seems to be a fine tune option for more corner entry grip, more reac, more agressive.
Will they be stocked up with B/Y at TQ? Or CRC, TRC or Jaco tires?

Thanks
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Will they be stocked up with B/Y at TQ? Or CRC, TRC or Jaco tires?

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Sean has been stocking them in both flavors. Jaco/CRC

Might be a good idea to hit him up in the REGIONAL thread to remind him.

We gotta keep bumping that thread till Jan 15
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:11 PM   #3459
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Thanks Redbull. No one was really bashing the R5. They were just talking about their own car. We are running 13.5 in blinky so I think I am kind of on the border of benefiting from the chassis. I may go ahead and pick one up to just find out for myself. Anyway, thanks for your input.
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:49 PM   #3460
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Blick. I wouldn't spend a dime till you start properly prepping your 12th car. You are nowhere near the limits of your current car. If you don't stay on top of things like ride height, droop, springs collapsing, camber, toe, shocks, diff, etc. no car will help you. I could take your car, prep it myself and turn around and beat you by the same number of laps I do now.
12th scale setup is very precise. Minute changes make a huge difference in handling. People that are fast in 12th are meticulous about setup or rely on someone who is.

If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, go for it. It won't resolve the issues you are having though.
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Old 12-27-2011, 01:47 PM   #3461
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Can someone suggest a 1s lipo to fit the 12r5.1?
I am biased but this is what I suggest.
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Couple of comparisons please.... I am looking into getting the associated inline battery chassis for my 12R5.1 and I am getting mixed reviews from the local crowd - none of which are running the associated. Some of you that have run the battery in both positions give me some comparisons as to what characteristics of the car changed. For example is it overall easier to drive? Did you have to make radical changes to your setup? If so then what? It looks to me like a lot of the guys making the conversion are going to a lighter side spring. Is that because the weight of the battery, in the inline position, doesn't apply as much torsional roll to the car and lighter springs are all that is needed? These are a few of the questions on my mind as I consider the conversion. Please chime in and elaborate.

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The car is easier to drive fast. The main setup change is the softer side springs. However in testing Sean C. only changed to the conversion with no other changes and felt the car was easier to drive. The changes to the springs make it even better.
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Anyone using the Z3650? How do you get it to fit?
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For those of you running CRC tires/wheels, are you having to lightly sand the outside edge of the rear wheels with a file on the truer to bring the overall width down to 172mm?

I am using 1 of the AE .005" shims in b/w the left side hub and 3 .005" shims in b/w the diff hub to center the axle. With un-modified CRC wheels, I am just a hair wider than 172mm. As in, maybe a half mm wider.

In preparation for the Carpet Nats next spring, I want to make sure I am within the legal limits for rear width. I did notice than a number of AE drivers were using CRC tires/wheels at the IIC.... both Hohwart and Levanen. It did not look like they had sanded down the outer edge, but then again Im not sure if they were teching rear width to the ROAR limit...

Any thoughts?
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For those of you running CRC tires/wheels, are you having to lightly sand the outside edge of the rear wheels with a file on the truer to bring the overall width down to 172mm?

I am using 1 of the AE .005" shims in b/w the left side hub and 3 .005" shims in b/w the diff hub to center the axle. With un-modified CRC wheels, I am just a hair wider than 172mm. As in, maybe a half mm wider.

In preparation for the Carpet Nats next spring, I want to make sure I am within the legal limits for rear width. I did notice than a number of AE drivers were using CRC tires/wheels at the IIC.... both Hohwart and Levanen. It did not look like they had sanded down the outer edge, but then again Im not sure if they were teching rear width to the ROAR limit...

Any thoughts?
I'm using 2 shims on the right(diff)side with CRC wheels and come up right at 172mm. I'm also using the CRC ride height adjusters for the pod. Maybe they are different than the AE ones in width.
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