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Old 11-22-2010, 03:42 PM   #2626
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Anybody tried lowering the 5 pivot balls by 0.6mm?

Something there doing in Europe on the for V-Dezign CR4 which helps improve the handling. The CR 4 uses the AE pivot balls etc
Lowering the pivot balls? How?



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Am going to run a 5.1 and looking for a servo

1) BLS651 comes with plastic gears
2) KO 951 too bigger footprint

Is there anything in the sanwa range which could be a good option?
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Old 11-22-2010, 07:22 PM   #2628
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I think the shoulder of the ball is lower, so your link would be lower or closer to the graphite plate.


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Old 11-22-2010, 09:26 PM   #2629
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I think the shoulder of the ball is lower, so your link would be lower or closer to the graphite plate.


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If they get any lower then I don't see how there will be any room left for movement.
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Old 11-22-2010, 09:35 PM   #2630
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If they get any lower then I don't see how there will be any room left for movement.
Sean,

The AE one's are the low ones, I think that question originated from a different thread. Some people will switch out the higher balls, like the Serpent balls from a Serpent link car, to the lower AE balls for a different feel.

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Old 11-22-2010, 10:42 PM   #2631
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It's the same straight question - has anyone tried to lower the rear link balls on the R5 - and not from any other thread. The V-Dezign cars use AE pivot balls turned down by 0.5mm. Please do not guess what is going on if you are not sure, as it just confuses everyone!!

Sean, they do still work, and there is enough room for the articulation on the V-Dezign chassis. They do this to improve rear traction. We used to do teh same with T-bar cars with the same effect - lower the balls by 0.5mm and rear grip was very good. However...

We did this with cars running the L4 front suspension and guess what - the V-Dezign cars are running the L4 front suspension!! One person I know has run it with the R5 front suspension and said the car is not as good. I suspect the answer is that the R5 front suspension has a geometry that doesn't work the same as the L4 (perhaps Sean could confirm?) so using the lowered rear pivot balls won't have the same effect as it does with the L4 front suspension.

But that doesn't mean I won't try it...
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Q: Lowering the pivot balls only on the chassis side or on the pod as well?
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what front width does everyone run with the onpoint chassis?
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what front width does everyone run with the onpoint chassis?
I'm running a 1mm shim between the lower arm and bulkhead and a 2mm shim between the upper arm mount and bulkhead. This will let you use the factory front brace as well.

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All of them. They must all be at the same height otherwise the action will not be smooth and linear.
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Anybody tried lowering the 5 pivot balls by 0.6mm?

Something there doing in Europe on the for V-Dezign CR4 which helps improve the handling. The CR 4 uses the AE pivot balls etc
Don't forget to reduce the height of the centre pivot mount by the same amount so it's feet and the pivot ball all touch the chassis as one

you may also need to dremel the underside of the pivot mount to prevent it touching the chassis for side to side roll
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Seems labour intensive to make these changes to the pivot balls. Any estimates on time it take to make these changes.
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Servo Question

Am going to run a 5.1 and looking for a servo

1) BLS651 comes with plastic gears
2) KO 951 too bigger footprint

Is there anything in the sanwa range which could be a good option?
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Put S9650, plastic gear but it is futaba and works
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Seems labour intensive to make these changes to the pivot balls. Any estimates on time it take to make these changes.
approx 30 to 45 mins for me
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