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Old 12-10-2009, 12:24 PM   #1936
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Hey, Mike what tires were you using? and the spring sizes, front and centre?

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I wonder if anybody can help. Raced my 12R5.1 last night,very bumpy track,need to run about 5mm ground clearance. Was struggling with extreme oversteer in the low speed parts of the track. Running the car with the stock setup, but tried various caster angles which changed the car's high speed corner entry, but once slowed down it didn't seem to matter, the car just wanted to make square turns. I was running yellow rear tires (46mm), definitely not lacking rear traction, again 5mm ride height. Black front tires out of the box, about 44 mm I think, no more than 1/4 of the tire traction compound. I'm wondering if its a steering geometry problem. Futaba 9650 servo, Kimbro servo saver-middle holes, steering rods in line looking from above and from the front. Do I have a bump steer or ackerman problem? I don't really understand what to change to make a difference. I had this problem last time I raced the car on a smooth track as well with small tires (I've only raced it twice). By the way, I was running O20 front springs. Maybe some of you set up guru's can help me out.
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saw a different lipo batt placement yesterday, instead of using the 2 limiters, the lipo was put as far forward in chassis, than taped, has anyone done this and have any handling comments on doin this? I'm so fast that last night I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark. - Muhammad sting like a bee Ali.,.,.,loosing is definatlly NOT a option....Agreed?--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

saw a different lipo batt placement yesterday, instead of using the 2 limiters, the lipo was put as far forward in chassis, than taped, has anyone done this and have any handling comments on doin this? I'm so fast that last night I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark. - Muhammad sting like a bee Ali.,.,.,loosing is definatlly NOT a option....Agreed?
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Old 12-14-2009, 11:20 AM   #1939
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Good afternoon everybody,

Since a month ago I'm the proud owner of the older RC12R5 kit.
I actually bought one already build by its previous owner and a new kit
which has been left untouched.

Since I work for a US employer but am based in Europe my American boss
who is coming over to Brussels told me he could bring some parts with him when
he visits over here.

I'm in the process of ordering the conversion parts to bring the car to R5.1 spec.

My question was what other parts might also be interesting ?
I've read that shims aren't fully included anymore in the kit so they are worth
buying ?
What about the blue Alu FT screwset or the different springs ?
Bearings worth buying extra spares ?

Last but least tools, I'm looking to buy either AE or LRP tools but I'm pretty
uncertain what sizes of drivers/nutdrivers I need and especially the nutdriver for the front wheels , it looks like the tool that came with the kit doesn't have
the correct size for the front wheel nut and I have no clue what size it is.

Sorry about the amount of questions but this is a once in a lifetime chance for me to stock up on spare parts and get the quality tools I need for the future since everything over here ( Europe) is 3 x the US prices.

Thanks for looking into this,your feedback is highly appreciated,
Erik

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Hi Erik!

I think you should buy some spare bearings for rear and front.

Asso 12R5 and 12R5.1 (I've got 5.1 spec) is metrics, so you should have:
- 1.5mm, 2mm, 2.5mm and 3.0mm hex driver (maybe 2.5 don't need,
but screw with large head with 2.5mm hex is better for engine),
- nut driver for front axle is 5.5mm.

Some washers are always welcome, because you can drop/lost them on track or pits just buy some.

About springs, fronts .20 or .18 or .22, rears small one, blue, silver and gold,
in my 12R5.1 kit setup is blue and it is OK for me, but I have some from 10R5. Springs for central dumper, go with red and this one from kit.

You can switch to cyclone 12 shock if you want or xray, for me, they
are better then asso but you don't need it.

You can buy front down arms (2x) AS4620 Associated dolne wachacze 12R5
#4620 and upper arms (1x) #4621 and #4622 and repair kit for
shock #4662, and rear axle #4565.

Whish you good luck!

m.

ps: sorry for double post.
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Stical- parts I would recommend getting would be- A spare rear axle hub, the left side or non diff side, they do crack or strip, Also get some spare 4-40 wheel bolts for the rear, and the 2-56 bolt for the hub, all other screws are metric in the car, all wrenches are metric, except rear wheels are 3/32, a .o50 size wrench is good to have, and the diff wrench,(11/32 I think).
Spare shock rebuild kit or 2 is good, spare side springs, both different ones and the same as kit, it is very possible for a side spring to fall out.
Spare set of front end blue spacer washers is good, and a spare shock shaft, they do bend from batteries hitting them, or piston coming loose from the shaft, spare blue shock end would be good for the same reason. Front end springs would also be good to have...
Other than some shock and hub issues, I have YET to see a broken part on a 12R5 since they have come out, that is at 3 different tracks in the area with ALL different skill level drivers, very durable car, I myself would NOT recommend the aluminum screw kit, there is not many screws in the kit, and most thread into metal, it sucks to strip a screw head and try to get it out, steel is much more reliable, won't save much weight anyways...
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WOW! Mike Blackstock has been in the Mod 1/12 A-main at Cleveland 20 years in a row!

That is quite a feet...Congrats Mike! 20 years!? Damn, your old!
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Old 12-14-2009, 11:36 PM   #1944
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Thanks M.Abramowicz and Ffejdat for the info, appreciate it.

It is always difficult to know what spares to get when you've never driven a 1:12 yet.

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saw a different lipo batt placement yesterday, instead of using the 2 limiters, the lipo was put as far forward in chassis, than taped, has anyone done this and have any handling comments on doin this? I'm so fast that last night I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark. - Muhammad sting like a bee Ali.,.,.,loosing is definatlly NOT a option....Agreed?--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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sorry bro but My Yokomo Brace got damaged! Was gonna tell you but I ordered another but it was the last one from rcmarket Man I got lucky went on the website and boom 1 left!!!! it should come in tuesday. Hey I gave up on the other one
How'd you damage the brace? That thing is pretty solid.
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If anyone is looking for rear braces, I have Home made from a friend who's been in tool and tie for over 10 years.



I have been using it for a few weeks now and it works great.
$10 + shipping
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If anyone is looking for rear braces, I have Home made from a friend who's been in tool and tie for over 10 years.



I have been using it for a few weeks now and it works great.
$10 + shipping
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How'd you damage the brace? That thing is pretty solid.
Racing a 1/10 that ran straight into my side (HARD!!!) rear pod and brace was damaged do to a bad twist. What are the chances of that? Damn what a waste
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What are the effects or differences of running .018 front springs or .020 front springs. What does it make the car do?
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