678LikesFWD TOURING CAR FORUM - Tamiya FF01, FF02, Yokomo YRF-2, Kyosho Mantis FF
05-09-2010, 02:44 AM
#166
LMFAO...and what does this have anything to do with copying? Going by your logic EVERY gearbox on the plantet is a copy of a FF01...
You are obviously NOT an engineer so don't pretend to be one.
LMFAO....having lay down shocks has NOTHING, NADA, ZILCH to do with having an alloy gearbox. The FF03 has lay down shocks and last time I checked it doesn't have an alloy gearbox.
And what does this have anything to do with copying the FF01?
Lay down the crack pipe...
But then again you are the expert
You are obviously NOT an engineer so don't pretend to be one.
LMFAO....having lay down shocks has NOTHING, NADA, ZILCH to do with having an alloy gearbox. The FF03 has lay down shocks and last time I checked it doesn't have an alloy gearbox.
And what does this have anything to do with copying the FF01?
Lay down the crack pipe...
But then again you are the expert
You seem to have very little knowledge but not surprising
The FF01 design was quite unique in its time.
The use of alloy and laydown shocks is more about the fact that they cannot afford to carry out plastic moulding. Without being able to make new C hubs and knuckles and moulded bulkheads etc other mounting options had to be considered
The layout of the battery was pointed out as being different by you but the chassis is built to take a battery across the car as well so your argument of being different is mute.
The design is simply a copy of the FF01 car with modifications to suit their lack of plastic moulding
BTW ... do you even have a Xevo?
05-09-2010, 02:48 AM
#167
You seem to have very little knowledge but not surprising
The FF01 design was quite unique in its time.
The use of alloy and laydown shocks is more about the fact that they cannot afford to carry out plastic moulding.
The layout of the battery was pointed out as being different but the chassis is built to take a battery across the car as well so your argument of being different is mute.
The design is simply a copy of the FF01 car with modifications to suit their lack of plastic moulding
05-09-2010, 06:15 AM
#169
I don't see any lay down shocks despite the open alloy gearbox.
Can you spell O W N E D???
05-09-2010, 03:06 PM
#171
05-09-2010, 03:16 PM
#172
Dude are you like 10 years old or something?
Actually I suspect not, even my 10 year old has more intelligence and respect for other peoples opinions than you do...
Actually I suspect not, even my 10 year old has more intelligence and respect for other peoples opinions than you do...
05-09-2010, 03:19 PM
#173
Opinions are like @ssholes......which is unfortunate, just because you're entitled to an opinion doesn't mean you actually know WTF you're talking about.-> Mr Cannon.
...which is unfortunate, just because you're entitled to an opinion doesn't mean you actually know WTF you're talking about.-> Mr Cannon.
05-09-2010, 03:25 PM
#174
Can we all get back to FWD TOURING CAR FORUM - Tamiya FF01, FF02, Yokomo YRF-2, Kyosho Mantis FF ...
05-09-2010, 09:44 PM
#175
And the second reason for the laydown shocks is quite simple but Papero would not know not owning one. There is virtually no room between the gearbox plates and the wheels because of the short Mini arms to actually fit a standard shock setup .. so hence the horizontal shocks. One racer has done major alterations and managed to fit shocks vertically but it is not feasible because of turning circle restrictions
And I have no pretentions to being a design engineer ... just a set of eyes and a brain. Obviously something missing in the Papero family
05-09-2010, 09:47 PM
#176
Google can:
Brand Batterireiauto employing vertical bite battle in FF Touring
Enjoy
The upright slim chassis configuration FF-03PRO batteries are side by side and three-wire
And tension gripping battle uniform rule and unique de Furontodoraibutsuringukaresu
I can feel a sense of touring a new sensation. FF and 4WD and tuck-in machine-specific differences
You can enjoy your driving and or behavior.
The new ball differential capacity development Konpakutogiyabokkusu (Inchisaizuboru × 12) equipped. Off
Rontosasupenshon around the Shotoribashiburusasuamu, Glass-filled nylon
TRF416 upright, IFS and adoption, and can be balanced Sasusettingu
Be.
The front and rear suspension arms Riyasekushon was able to set the mounting position of the damper section also Wheelbase
Recombination patterns can be altered by the application 257,245,233 3.
TRF damper HB Court, Chitankotopisutonroddo specifications, Arumitanbakkurushafu
Cart (3 × 32mm), aluminum horn Haitorukusaboseiba, Arumipiroboru / ball
Nut ,06-26T parts sought to enhance the high functionality and underlying Fussokotopinion PRO
This calls for a specification.
Tamiya Wanmeikukurasu held at the Grand Prix, world championship for the class and
Be.
Looks like an emulation of the YR-F2 to me. Nothing wrong with that but when the bar is that high, tamiya have their work cut out. After all, there's no point in bringing out somehting like that if you can't beat a 20 year old design.
If it is true (and Google doesn't lie, as we all know) that they're going to bring it out with round battery slots (for Nicd/Nimh) I think it is a great missed opportunity. I will wait until they launch the Lipo upgrade.
Brand Batterireiauto employing vertical bite battle in FF Touring
Enjoy
The upright slim chassis configuration FF-03PRO batteries are side by side and three-wire
And tension gripping battle uniform rule and unique de Furontodoraibutsuringukaresu
I can feel a sense of touring a new sensation. FF and 4WD and tuck-in machine-specific differences
You can enjoy your driving and or behavior.
The new ball differential capacity development Konpakutogiyabokkusu (Inchisaizuboru × 12) equipped. Off
Rontosasupenshon around the Shotoribashiburusasuamu, Glass-filled nylon
TRF416 upright, IFS and adoption, and can be balanced Sasusettingu
Be.
The front and rear suspension arms Riyasekushon was able to set the mounting position of the damper section also Wheelbase
Recombination patterns can be altered by the application 257,245,233 3.
TRF damper HB Court, Chitankotopisutonroddo specifications, Arumitanbakkurushafu
Cart (3 × 32mm), aluminum horn Haitorukusaboseiba, Arumipiroboru / ball
Nut ,06-26T parts sought to enhance the high functionality and underlying Fussokotopinion PRO
This calls for a specification.
Tamiya Wanmeikukurasu held at the Grand Prix, world championship for the class and
Be.
Looks like an emulation of the YR-F2 to me. Nothing wrong with that but when the bar is that high, tamiya have their work cut out. After all, there's no point in bringing out somehting like that if you can't beat a 20 year old design.
If it is true (and Google doesn't lie, as we all know) that they're going to bring it out with round battery slots (for Nicd/Nimh) I think it is a great missed opportunity. I will wait until they launch the Lipo upgrade.
05-10-2010, 10:46 AM
#177
For the brain dead Papero who obviously has not seen a Xevo ... the alloy motor mounts are an economy step as they dont have plastic moulding facilities. The guys involved are small time and a home design. Have you met them and spoken to them? I thought not
And the second reason for the laydown shocks is quite simple but Papero would not know not owning one. There is virtually no room between the gearbox plates and the wheels because of the short Mini arms to actually fit a standard shock setup .. so hence the horizontal shocks. One racer has done major alterations and managed to fit shocks vertically but it is not feasible because of turning circle restrictions:
And the second reason for the laydown shocks is quite simple but Papero would not know not owning one. There is virtually no room between the gearbox plates and the wheels because of the short Mini arms to actually fit a standard shock setup .. so hence the horizontal shocks. One racer has done major alterations and managed to fit shocks vertically but it is not feasible because of turning circle restrictions:
Thanks for playing.
And I have no pretentions to being a design engineer ... just a set of eyes and a brain. Obviously something missing in the Papero family
05-10-2010, 01:36 PM
#178
My earlier comment "The use of alloy and laydown shocks is more about the fact that they cannot afford to carry out plastic moulding. Without being able to make new C hubs and knuckles and moulded bulkheads etc other mounting options had to be considered" still stands. Some have achieved standard shock layout but have used various other parts. Xevo elected to go the other way for ease of manufacturing. They did not have to mould anything.
Get back to me when you own one or have seen one
Get back to me when you own one or have seen one
05-10-2010, 01:45 PM
#179
Tech Rookie
05-13-2010, 09:19 PM
#180
I decided to resuscitate my FF01 special edition and start running it...
I put HPI TE37s on it with X-Patterns (I'm prepping for they add FWD to RCGT... I hope)... 3mm offset in the front 6mm on the rear (to fit the Mitsubishi Evo body I have for it... so I don't wreck my Calsonic Primera shell)
don't mind the wiring... it's only for testing... I have a Castle controller on it (I'm sponsored) and a black can motor (it came with it)... everything else is stock special edition
I put HPI TE37s on it with X-Patterns (I'm prepping for they add FWD to RCGT... I hope)... 3mm offset in the front 6mm on the rear (to fit the Mitsubishi Evo body I have for it... so I don't wreck my Calsonic Primera shell)
don't mind the wiring... it's only for testing... I have a Castle controller on it (I'm sponsored) and a black can motor (it came with it)... everything else is stock special edition