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Old 06-15-2015, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by macscac
any luck w/ that battery setup photo?
thanks
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Old 06-15-2015, 06:04 PM
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thank you.
that looks like a better idea than the way i currently have mine.
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I was using adhesive foam strips between the top deck and battery - the Tamiya ones I mentioned earlier - but that just wasn't working for me.

As I always do, I spent some time in thought and this is what I came up with.

Pictures are easier to understand then words.
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What weight oil are you guys running in the diffs in your fwd cars?
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Old 06-16-2015, 09:53 AM
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What weight oil are you guys running in the diffs in your fwd cars?
Currently using 5000cst. I am not the fastest, still 0.8s off race pace but I only started racing FWD Touring mid year 2014.

We race on a large outdoor asphalt track. Not too technical, fast and flowing mostly.

Still working on setup but I would advise you start with kit suggested diff oil and work from there.
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Well The MTS FF Pro comes pre built and the diff filled with what feels like 300,000 to 500,000. The guys at Team powers are running 2.5 million in their team cars. I tried Silicone earplugs and it took away initial turn in. It pulled like a 4wd coming out of the corners though (The MTS FF Pro has way more front weight biase then the other FWD cars). I guess I am just going to have to keep experiemnting though.

I hate filling diffs.....
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Well The MTS FF Pro comes pre built and the diff filled with what feels like 300,000 to 500,000. The guys at Team powers are running 2.5 million in their team cars. I tried Silicone earplugs and it took away initial turn in. It pulled like a 4wd coming out of the corners though (The MTS FF Pro has way more front weight biase then the other FWD cars). I guess I am just going to have to keep experiemnting though.

I hate filling diffs.....
If I am not mistaken, setup is about compromise. A section of the track your car will excel, in another section it will not.

Ask the fast guys at your track what oils they use - probably the best advice one could give.
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Problem is I am the ony guy with a fwd.
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Originally Posted by Controversy
If I am not mistaken, setup is about compromise. A section of the track your car will excel, in another section it will not.

Ask the fast guys at your track what oils they use - probably the best advice one could give.
I confirmed with Andy @ Rc explorer, he says the diff is filled with 1 million cst and shocks with 450cst. Oddly he does not recommend using putty but yet they list blue tac on race opt web page. I didn't run the car but I'm going to fill a spare diff with 2.5 million.
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Originally Posted by patorz31
Problem is I am the ony guy with a fwd.
I'll be running one on asphalt next week, I'll reports findings in the MTS thread.
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Problem is I am the ony guy with a fwd.
Best get the others involved as well. FWD is a blast and competition can be fierce.

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I confirmed with Andy @ Rc explorer, he says the diff is filled with 1 million cst and shocks with 450cst. Oddly he does not recommend using putty but yet they list blue tac on race opt web page. I didn't run the car but I'm going to fill a spare diff with 2.5 million.
I'm always learning and always looking to educate myself further. What handling characteristics can one expect when using a lighter oil and when moving to a heavier oil/putty?
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Originally Posted by patorz31
Well The MTS FF Pro comes pre built and the diff filled with what feels like 300,000 to 500,000. The guys at Team powers are running 2.5 million in their team cars. I tried Silicone earplugs and it took away initial turn in. It pulled like a 4wd coming out of the corners though (The MTS FF Pro has way more front weight biase then the other FWD cars). I guess I am just going to have to keep experiemnting though.

I hate filling diffs.....
Silicone earplugs are the way to go IMO. You need that drive on corner exit, especially if you're up against 4wd's.

Develop more on-power steering techniques, and sometimes a split second tap on the brake is all it takes to get the car to rotate in the beginning of a corner.
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The MTS FF doesn't rotate like that yet, the first race night with it I had to let off let it coast in and then hammer it to keep it in line. Touching the brakes gives it a big push. The car was the weirdest weight bias I have ever seen 70 front 30 rear. I may move the battery back and see what happens but I don't want to lose how it drives out of the corner. It pulls like a freight train.
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Originally Posted by patorz31
The MTS FF doesn't rotate like that yet, the first race night with it I had to let off let it coast in and then hammer it to keep it in line. Touching the brakes gives it a big push. The car was the weirdest weight bias I have ever seen 70 front 30 rear. I may move the battery back and see what happens but I don't want to lose how it drives out of the corner. It pulls like a freight train.
I am still playing with my FF02 while I decide which way I want to go with car choice and I am deciding for my next meeting with it to move some weight back in the car just to try and settle it down but unlike you I have massive amount of turn in and because I want to keep using the same tyres front and rear the rear gets a bit unstable.
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