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Old 02-09-2009, 08:41 PM   #676
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hey bill when u coming back to chico did u get scared off or what ?
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Old 02-09-2009, 08:42 PM   #677
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Guys, could any of you give me some ideas on how to get rid of this? I'm running on a high traction carpet track.

Symptoms: Car has a ton of front and rear grip. I can go into a corner pretty hard, turn it in and its ok. But I have to let it roll through the corner. If i pick up the throttle before or slightly after the apex, the car will bicycle, or snap roll!

Heres my setup (from memory)

Jaco spec tires trued to 56mm (front sidewalls glued)
Blue (x-firm springs in front)
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middle hole wheelbase (kit setup)

That's all i can think of.

I'm going to try the heay losi battery tray next, but what else can i do?

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Hi Steve,

Thanks for choosing the CRC Gen-X 10... let's see if we can fix you up a bit.

I agree with Bill, your tires are a bit too large. We run down to 52.75 on our larger rim, so even smaller is possible with Jaco's smaller rim.

Also, a bit less camber will also help, maybe -1 degree. Plus, fully super gluing (CA) the front sidewalls will calm the car as well.

Try these changes one at a time as you may kill all your corner speed.

ChadRacing....

try around a 2.80" rollout. I ran 37/88 with 2.09 tires at the halloween race and the car was pretty quick. Remember, this varies greatly depending on what type of speedo you are using. Typically looking for a max motor temp of about 140.

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Thanks Frank.
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hey bill when u coming back to chico did u get scared off or what ?
Like I said...Should be there for the finals...Love the A-Main track and the hospitality of the locals.

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Hi Steve,

Thanks for choosing the CRC Gen-X 10... let's see if we can fix you up a bit.

I agree with Bill, your tires are a bit too large. We run down to 52.75 on our larger rim, so even smaller is possible with Jaco's smaller rim.

Also, a bit less camber will also help, maybe -1 degree. Plus, fully super gluing (CA) the front sidewalls will calm the car as well.

Try these changes one at a time as you may kill all your corner speed.

ChadRacing....

try around a 2.80" rollout. I ran 37/88 with 2.09 tires at the halloween race and the car was pretty quick. Remember, this varies greatly depending on what type of speedo you are using. Typically looking for a max motor temp of about 140.

Frank Calandra
Thanks Frank.

talking about tires, could you explain the advantages/disadvantages of using the larger wheel vs. the smaller wheel (CRC vs. Jaco)

Thanks again for the help.
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Thanks Frank for the help.....love driving the car
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hey is anybody running the tq small wire on there motors and battery in this class just wondering if there would be any issues by doing it thanks guys
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hey is anybody running the tq small wire on there motors and battery in this class just wondering if there would be any issues by doing it thanks guys
Note: I corrected my earlier post to indicate that I am running TQ 13 wire on my CRC Gen-X 10 with 5000 lipo and 17.5 motor.

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I am. Works great!
well i was not sure if it should only be used on a 12th scale or if it would work ok in the gt cars as well, so that makes me feel better knowing someone else is running it thanks Bill
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well i was not sure if it should only be used on a 12th scale or if it would work ok in the gt cars as well, so that makes me feel better knowing someone else is running it thanks Bill
Have used it with both 17.5 and 13.5 motors. And I have no concern about loss of power to either motor.

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hey is anybody running the tq small wire on there motors and battery in this class just wondering if there would be any issues by doing it thanks guys
What battery are you going to run? With 4-cell NiMH you should be able to use their 16 gauge wire, but I haven't tried it. I run 7.4V LiPo/17.5 and lost too much power with the 16 gauge wire, but the 13 gauge works great.
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Hey Guys,

I am actually having some issues mounting the motor. It seems like there is a flange in the way that is making the motor mount unevenly. Worse part is, when I looked at the flanged CF, there is a screw that is flush with the edges. Filing down is way out of the question.

So my next question is, should I shrink the spur and pinion down while trying to achieve the 66:1 FDR?

I am also having some issues mounting the sensor wire as well. Any help anyone could provide would be greatly appreciated.

As far as tire size, I have my Jaco's trimmed down to 52 in the rear.
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Hi guys

I am new in the pan car world, could say that I know nothing.

Have just build my Gen-X 10 last week.

I am going to run on club in an asphalt track.

Below there is a picture of the track can someone help me build a set up.

I am going to use a LRP 9.5 stock motor, LRP 5300 Lipo battery and LRP Sphere TC Competition, basically is the electronics I use on my TC5.



I have the original spur gear of the kit I think it is a 100T.

The track as you can see have 180 corners, there is a long section on it of about 50 meters but the others have maximun 8 to 10 meters.

We also use many different types of circuits, but this big one is the most used.

The track is a little bumpy in some points and have a medium grip.

I have also another question I bought some pairs of Jaco at Amainhobbies do I really have to trim them or can I run them right out of the box? If I have to trim what diameter should I put them?

Sorry for so many questions but here in Brazil this class of cars are not well know.
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Hey Guys,

I am actually having some issues mounting the motor. It seems like there is a flange in the way that is making the motor mount unevenly. Worse part is, when I looked at the flanged CF, there is a screw that is flush with the edges. Filing down is way out of the question.

So my next question is, should I shrink the spur and pinion down while trying to achieve the 66:1 FDR?

I am also having some issues mounting the sensor wire as well. Any help anyone could provide would be greatly appreciated.

As far as tire size, I have my Jaco's trimmed down to 52 in the rear.

Back the screw out and grind it down flush! I didn't want to do this either, but this seemed to be the consensus at our local track. After this, the motor fits fine, and you'll have plenty of gear ratios to work with.

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