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Old 02-24-2016, 09:46 AM   #4081
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Great advice thanks a lot!
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Anytime, whens your next event? Curious to see if it works for you.
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Old 03-18-2016, 10:23 AM   #4083
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Sorry for the delay! Setup changes worked ok but the biggest factor was again saucing time. Car was pretty good in heats but tires started gumming in the non-sauces portion up front. So I sauced full front and that ruined the setup. Car was over steering and traction rolling in the heats. Going back to all stock setup and 1/2 front tire and full rear tire sauce total for ten minutes and go from there.
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Sorry for the delay! Setup changes worked ok but the biggest factor was again saucing time. Car was pretty good in heats but tires started gumming in the non-sauces portion up front. So I sauced full front and that ruined the setup. Car was over steering and traction rolling in the heats. Going back to all stock setup and 1/2 front tire and full rear tire sauce total for ten minutes and go from there.
You may just need a little less camber up front. The lack of friction over the width of the tire may be causing the gumming problem. Still sauce 1/3 to 1/2 of the tires to get the initial grip then the overall grip should stabilize in a few laps.
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Old 03-18-2016, 12:38 PM   #4085
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Get yourself some ride height shims. They go between the caster block and the lower a frame. That will calm the camber gain that your getting mid corner. Also do you clean your tires? A little bit of motor spray and a rag before you sauce. Should eliminate the gumming you speak of. I personally sauce 1/2-3/4 of the front tire and have never had an issue.

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Old 03-24-2016, 07:27 AM   #4086
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I'm looking at building a car for our local 21.5 Oval rubber tire 1s class. Was looking at the Gen-x SE with CRC rubber tires and also see they are coming out with a new rubber tire car shortly.

Would this make a decent oval car, I'd like to also be able to use it onroad not just oval. Should I wait for the new rubber tire specific car? Or a buddy says not to get these as I would not be competitive on the oval and need an oval specific chassis.

Back in the day I ran an Associated 10L and TRC Spec 10 cars on both oval/roadcourse and didn't feel any huge disadvantage

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Old 03-24-2016, 07:47 AM   #4087
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Its about weight distribution. The SE car is designed with a center mass. Most oval cars are designed with a heavy left side distribution, as well side shock and spring combos vs dampening tubes the SE would have. Will it work for oval racing, Sure. Will it be anywhere near as fast as a purpose built car, IMO No.
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Old 03-24-2016, 09:08 AM   #4088
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There is a reason why the oval chassis is designed the way it is. The SE would work- sort of. But a real oval chassis would work 100% better on any given track.Go to and oval event and see what everyone is using. Also parts availablity locally.
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Old 03-24-2016, 09:40 AM   #4089
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what bull said
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Hi DougH, obviously a LTO car works best for LTO. You can use a on road car on a LTO track with a good out come by adjusting weight and suspension. But if you take a LTO to an on road track it's difficult to have a good out come.
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Get yourself some ride height shims. They go between the caster block and the lower a frame. That will calm the camber gain that your getting mid corner. Also do you clean your tires? A little bit of motor spray and a rag before you sauce. Should eliminate the gumming you speak of. I personally sauce 1/2-3/4 of the front tire and have never had an issue.

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Thanks for the advice guys!
Ordered these and I also installed the long upper arm conversion.
Our track just got the new CRC hi grip carpet so I think all these changes will help make it able to drive into a turn as hard as I want but not traction roll or snap oversteer. I hope at least!
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Thanks for the advice guys!
Ordered these and I also installed the long upper arm conversion.
Our track just got the new CRC hi grip carpet so I think all these changes will help make it able to drive into a turn as hard as I want but not traction roll or snap oversteer. I hope at least!
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I have done either the long upper arms or the shims; but, never really needed both at the same time. Both together take away all your camber gain when the suspension moves.

Totally agree with YoDog. What degree(s) of front camber are you using? Excessive camber will lead to traction rolling when the traction comes up during the day.

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Old 03-31-2016, 04:37 AM   #4093
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i'm usually running only 1*..2 at most. If my tire is coning I'll then camber it as needed just to use the rest of the tire (i'm a cheap @$$) lol
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Thanks for the advice guys!
Ordered these and I also installed the long upper arm conversion.
Our track just got the new CRC hi grip carpet so I think all these changes will help make it able to drive into a turn as hard as I want but not traction roll or snap oversteer. I hope at least!
With the new carpet your going to have to CA the outer edge of the front tires. Otherwise youll roll non stop.
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Old 03-31-2016, 07:52 AM   #4095
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Ok cool I'll start with 0.5 degree negative camber and glue the front sidewalls along with just the long arm conversion.
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