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Old 01-30-2013, 05:48 AM   #3136
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Just working on my LE, is this still a good recommended set up to start with? Will be running on a med sized high bit carpet track, very technical.

Also, what is a good starting point for roll out? Running 13.5 1s, boosted.

I have all the parts to run the forward servo, and the long front arms as well.

Any and all advice is welcome.

note; I am interested in running SG1's set up, but at this time I dont have the parts to make the changes to the car, would like to base line it first in stock configuration.



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1/12th scale front kingpins, .50 front springs
.410 kingpin length
red center spring
white side springs 1 turn preload
10k in tubes
Reverse servo front plate mid track width
4.5mm rear ride height
4.25mm front ride height

This is pretty much what I run everywhere
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:39 AM   #3140
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Just working on my LE, is this still a good recommended set up to start with? Will be running on a med sized high bit carpet track, very technical.

Also, what is a good starting point for roll out? Running 13.5 1s, boosted.

I have all the parts to run the forward servo, and the long front arms as well.

Any and all advice is welcome.

note; I am interested in running SG1's set up, but at this time I dont have the parts to make the changes to the car, would like to base line it first in stock configuration.
try crc blue side springs gives more roll in turns
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try crc blue side springs gives more roll in turns
I wouldn't run the blues with that front-end set-up. The car would be too lazy, and would have very little steering. That set-up with long kingpins and white springs up front would be closer to ideal.
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:00 PM   #3142
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I wouldn't run the blues with that front-end set-up. The car would be too lazy, and would have very little steering. That set-up with long kingpins and white springs up front would be closer to ideal.
So, are you saying to run white in the front and white in the sides? Also should I run the long arms?

What would be your ideal set up.
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So, are you saying to run white in the front and white in the sides? Also should I run the long arms?

What would be your ideal set up.
I run white side springs nearly everywhere, but if I were to run blues I would definitely soften the front springs up to keep the roll rate closer front to rear.

I'm currently running:

Rear: elevated tweak mounts, (not nearly as elevated as SG1), white side springs over the links with ZERO preload, 20k in tubes, the .25" extended top pod plate with green spring and 35wt. oil, about .5mm pod droop.
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Front: Long-arm, 12th kingpins, 50 springs, 2 degrees camber, 10 degree reactive block, .25 mm of front droop (I don't measure kingpin length)

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Thanks for the reply.

Seeing as you are running the side springs in the altered position, the two set ups will not jive. I think I will start with Dumpers set up and go from there.

I will round up the longer posts to move the side springs out to try that.

Although, looking at the two set-ups, they are very similar. main difference being in the center shock. I do find it interesting that you are running basically the same front and side set up as Dumpers, even with the altered side spring location. Your set up should in theory be a bit harder in that regard, with the side springs moved more outboard and the tubes less angled(and lighter grease). Interesting

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Thanks for the reply.

Seeing as you are running the side springs in the altered position, the two set ups will not jive. I think I will start with Dumpers set up and go from there.

I will round up the longer posts to move the side springs out to try that.
Just run red side springs in the stock location, and shim up your damper tubes using longer screws and a 4-40 micro locknut, that will get you pretty close.
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I'm too picky about the counter sinking on the x brace. The steel screws when sung dont fit flush...

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I sorta blended the SG1 and Cypress set ups and ran them last weekend. The difference was a short arm front end with 1-12th pins and .50 springs.

I matched the fast lap against the Cypress car..This weekend I have the full SG1 set up. Hoping the change will increase corner speed and equalize tire wear front to rear. That alone would be worth it.
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SG1 - In case you are curious...

Here is a list of how the springs I have relate to each other. I tested this by compressing the springs on an allen driver with a spring perch between them and noting which one reached coil bind first or at the same exact time as the other.

Softest to hardest…

Speed Merchant .018" - Linear
AE Black - Progressive
AE Green/ CRC Blue (Soft) - Progressive
Speed Merchant .020" - Linear
AE Silver/ CRC White (Med) – Progressive
Speed Merchant .022" - Linear
AE Blue/CRC Red (Firm) – Progressive

I am a former sedan racer so I am a bit of a spring collector...
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Has anyone been testing the differences in bodies ( DB9 and Sophia)
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