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Old 02-29-2012, 01:52 PM   #2746
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Uh,.......put my car (w/10.5 +boosted ESC) on the track !

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Old 03-01-2012, 11:33 AM   #2747
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i am installing 1/12 king pin for my gen x LE and have some problems.
i try to use brian wynn's setup.
it said .404 1/12 king pin length
i find only few threads of the kingpin goes in the knuckle if i leave .404" (from bottom of kunckle to e clip slot)
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also does the rebound of the center shock matters?
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My LE chassis will be here tomorrow. Our track is a medium grip track...as I said in earlier post, looking for good steering coming off the corners. Which set of holes for chassis length should I mount the A arms that would be best for steering....short, middle or long???
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i am installing 1/12 king pin for my gen x LE and have some problems.
i try to use brian wynn's setup.
it said .404 1/12 king pin length
i find only few threads of the kingpin goes in the knuckle if i leave .404" (from bottom of kunckle to e clip slot)
please help
Per Dumper, I measure from the knuckle (directly under the stub axle to be consistent) to the bottom side of the e-clip slot in the king pin.

This should get the king pin in another turn if you are measuring to the top of the slot.

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also does the rebound of the center shock matters?
It is something to play with. Try both minimum/moderate/maximum rebounds to determine what fits your track situation best.

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thanks bill. you are always helpful.
are you one of the crc team driver?
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My LE chassis will be here tomorrow. Our track is a medium grip track...as I said in earlier post, looking for good steering coming off the corners. Which set of holes for chassis length should I mount the A arms that would be best for steering....short, middle or long???
I always run long wheelbase. My making the wheelbase long, you are moving the weight closer to the center pivot which gives you more steering.
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thanks bill. you are always helpful.
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Yes Still Bill runs for us. Bill is a smart guy and we are glad to have him on the team!
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i am installing 1/12 king pin for my gen x LE and have some problems.
i try to use brian wynn's setup.
it said .404 1/12 king pin length
i find only few threads of the kingpin goes in the knuckle if i leave .404" (from bottom of kunckle to e clip slot)
please help
Measure from where kingpin enters the steering block to the bottom of the e clip groove. You should be able to run as long as .420ish and still secure the kingpin.

Basically the spring will have just a little preload on it. I have been running .407 on the new steering blocks witht he 1/8' axles. The whole point of the number and measuring it is to make sure that they are even side to side. What I see alot when people bring their car to me at a race saying that the car hooks one way, is one kingpin is long. Assuming that the camber is fairly even side to side, the next thing I check is the kingpin length. 9 out of 10 times they will be two different lengths.

And please, please, please after you set your camber, look at it. I can not tell you how many people have problems setting camber. They pull out their over priced Hudy setup stations, strap on all those crazy attachments, set their camber, and then they are not the same. One tire will have like 17 degrees of camber and the other will be right. After you are done "setting" your camber, pick up the car, hold it in front of your face, open your eyes. look at it, and decide "do both of my tires look like they have the same amount of camber?" If you use one of those "setup" station thingees, you will be surprised how often it comes out wrong.

Sorry for the rant, but I want everyone to do better. And wasting over $100 on something that can screw the car up more than help it irritates me. We all carry alot of tools in our tool boxes, but usually your eyes are the best ones.



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Just do like dumper, Use the force!
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Using the ways of the force is in the Dumper's Speed Shop advanced classes.
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Thank you Dumper for the input. Getting my new chassis today...super excited!
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Measure from where kingpin enters the steering block to the bottom of the e clip groove. You should be able to run as long as .420ish and still secure the kingpin.

Basically the spring will have just a little preload on it. I have been running .407 on the new steering blocks witht he 1/8' axles. The whole point of the number and measuring it is to make sure that they are even side to side. What I see alot when people bring their car to me at a race saying that the car hooks one way, is one kingpin is long. Assuming that the camber is fairly even side to side, the next thing I check is the kingpin length. 9 out of 10 times they will be two different lengths.

And please, please, please after you set your camber, look at it. I can not tell you how many people have problems setting camber. They pull out their over priced Hudy setup stations, strap on all those crazy attachments, set their camber, and then they are not the same. One tire will have like 17 degrees of camber and the other will be right. After you are done "setting" your camber, pick up the car, hold it in front of your face, open your eyes. look at it, and decide "do both of my tires look like they have the same amount of camber?" If you use one of those "setup" station thingees, you will be surprised how often it comes out wrong.

Sorry for the rant, but I want everyone to do better. And wasting over $100 on something that can screw the car up more than help it irritates me. We all carry alot of tools in our tool boxes, but usually your eyes are the best ones.



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Brian, I spent the money and bought the Team CRC camber gauges, and I think this is the best and most economical way to set camber. You just have to make sure the surface you're using is flat. It's the best tool for the money IMO.

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yes, to a point..... depending on your glue man. someone like dumper, who has the best glue man in the business has less issues with camber gauges than guys who put layer upon layer of glue on the sidewalls, then glue the chunks back in. i too fell prey to the setup station voodoo, and found myself getting yelled at more often than not.

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