288LikesTamiya mini cooper
08-29-2011, 01:21 AM
Tech Adept
I take it you have the standard friction shocks after all that. Lol
08-29-2011, 04:49 AM
Nways, something I did when I was bored. A final drivee ratio for the M05
Spur Pinion FDR
Stock Gear
37 20 5.79605
37 18 6.440055556
37 16 7.2450625
3Racing Fast Gear
35 18 6.091944444
35 20 5.48275
35 22 4.984318182
3Racing Fast Gear
33 20 5.16945
33 22 4.6995
33 24 4.307875
08-29-2011, 06:52 AM
Looking for a little help....
Our club has just started a new spec touring class. We started using silver cans and spec gearing. It has been a little crazy with how silvercans differ in performance.
I know many of you run the hobbywing 35a esc and 13t motor in you minis.
I was wondering if that system would have enough power to push our touring cars to a decent spend. We are looking for a speed a little faster than a good silver can.
Thanks for any advice you can give us.
Chris
Our club has just started a new spec touring class. We started using silver cans and spec gearing. It has been a little crazy with how silvercans differ in performance.
I know many of you run the hobbywing 35a esc and 13t motor in you minis.
I was wondering if that system would have enough power to push our touring cars to a decent spend. We are looking for a speed a little faster than a good silver can.
Thanks for any advice you can give us.
Chris
08-29-2011, 07:16 AM
Tech Adept
Looking for a little help....
Our club has just started a new spec touring class. We started using silver cans and spec gearing. It has been a little crazy with how silvercans differ in performance.
I know many of you run the hobbywing 35a esc and 13t motor in you minis.
I was wondering if that system would have enough power to push our touring cars to a decent spend. We are looking for a speed a little faster than a good silver can.
Thanks for any advice you can give us.
Chris
Our club has just started a new spec touring class. We started using silver cans and spec gearing. It has been a little crazy with how silvercans differ in performance.
I know many of you run the hobbywing 35a esc and 13t motor in you minis.
I was wondering if that system would have enough power to push our touring cars to a decent spend. We are looking for a speed a little faster than a good silver can.
Thanks for any advice you can give us.
Chris
08-29-2011, 07:22 AM
A HW 13t will be quite a bit faster than a silver can. An equivalent BL System would be 17.5t-21.5t. Another way to put it, is that if you wanted to equal a silver can, then a motor running 2200kv to 2300kv would be right in the neighborhood. As a bonus, you get loads more torque.
08-29-2011, 09:29 AM
Thanks for the info....
We are trying to start a class that is in between stock 17.5 and novice TT01. We have a decent group of novice racers, but most are not ready for competitive racing in 17.5.
Sorry to post this in the mini forum but I know a lot are in Australia and run the 13t 35a systems in their minis.
We can get the HB 35A esc with 13t motor and programing card for around $60. I hear you guys have run these things for years without major problems.
Thanks
Chris
We are trying to start a class that is in between stock 17.5 and novice TT01. We have a decent group of novice racers, but most are not ready for competitive racing in 17.5.
Sorry to post this in the mini forum but I know a lot are in Australia and run the 13t 35a systems in their minis.
We can get the HB 35A esc with 13t motor and programing card for around $60. I hear you guys have run these things for years without major problems.
Thanks
Chris
08-29-2011, 01:13 PM
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Chris, the reason the 13T H/W system is so successful in the Minis is because of the restricted gearing. The motors only barely touch a small part of their potential.
We've run these systems in 4WD Minis with open gearing and they are VERY fast. And thats the problem you'd strike. I'm talking 13.5/10.5 Touring Car fast....
We've run these systems in 4WD Minis with open gearing and they are VERY fast. And thats the problem you'd strike. I'm talking 13.5/10.5 Touring Car fast....
08-29-2011, 01:46 PM
Thats what I was afraid of. Was hoping the 35a esc would limit some of the speed. I guess if we decide to use the HW system we will have to spec the gearing.
Thanks for everyone help,
Chris
Thanks for everyone help,
Chris
08-29-2011, 01:51 PM
If you are looking for a brushless system suitable for Mini one rule is critical...
Gear ratio.
If you have fixed the ratio at the Tamiya kit 5.8:1, then you can get away with a relatively high-revving motor. You won't come close to exploiting its power and any cogging-related issues that you can find with sensorless systems are less likely to appear.
If you run open gearing, then you will make the cars much faster than they need to be. So you need to find a much less powerful motor.
Gear ratio.
If you have fixed the ratio at the Tamiya kit 5.8:1, then you can get away with a relatively high-revving motor. You won't come close to exploiting its power and any cogging-related issues that you can find with sensorless systems are less likely to appear.
If you run open gearing, then you will make the cars much faster than they need to be. So you need to find a much less powerful motor.
08-29-2011, 02:02 PM
Just as a suggestion - We're about to start running a new product made by Orca. It's an Orca Q Spark 2200kv combo, with a sensorless motor, very similar to the Hobbywing. It's so new that it hasn't even hit the website yet.
The pricing is pretty good and it should be more readily available within a few months. Click the Orca link in my signature for contact info.
(No, I'm not paid or sponsored by Orca in any way. I'm paying just as much as everyone else for their gear.)
The pricing is pretty good and it should be more readily available within a few months. Click the Orca link in my signature for contact info.
(No, I'm not paid or sponsored by Orca in any way. I'm paying just as much as everyone else for their gear.)
08-29-2011, 06:50 PM
Just as a suggestion - We're about to start running a new product made by Orca. It's an Orca Q Spark 2200kv combo, with a sensorless motor, very similar to the Hobbywing. It's so new that it hasn't even hit the website yet.
The pricing is pretty good and it should be more readily available within a few months. Click the Orca link in my signature for contact info.
(No, I'm not paid or sponsored by Orca in any way. I'm paying just as much as everyone else for their gear.)
The pricing is pretty good and it should be more readily available within a few months. Click the Orca link in my signature for contact info.
(No, I'm not paid or sponsored by Orca in any way. I'm paying just as much as everyone else for their gear.)
08-29-2011, 07:45 PM
Yeah, the website is bloody awful, but there is a contact link. (I think)
08-29-2011, 09:44 PM
Does anyone know of a link or part number for the plasic oil filled shocks for the M-05?
08-30-2011, 04:28 AM
Tech Regular
Tamiya (#50746) C.V.A. Super Mini Shock Unit Set
08-30-2011, 05:15 AM
thinking about building extra shocks, but I'm sticking to the clear plastic version. Can't seem to find the shock shafts part number, Any help?
So far I managed to locate these. THanks in advance!
Tamiya (#84225) Super Mini Cylinder Clear Blue
Tamiya (#50597) Damper O-Ring(RD) *I prefer these to the clear ones*
Tamiya (#50600) C.V.A Mini Shock Unit II Oil Seal
So far I managed to locate these. THanks in advance!
Tamiya (#84225) Super Mini Cylinder Clear Blue
Tamiya (#50597) Damper O-Ring(RD) *I prefer these to the clear ones*
Tamiya (#50600) C.V.A Mini Shock Unit II Oil Seal